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DC: Why do you think WTC7 was a CD?

as for the essential free fall speed. i guess i will have to blame my sources

1) Section 6.14.4 NIST NCSTAR 1:
"since the stories below the level of collapse inititaion provided little resistance to the tremendous energy released by the falling building mass, the building section above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos"

the 9/11 Commission Report , states that the South Tower "collapsed in ten seconds" http://911review.com/errors/wtc/times.html

it would be difficult to argue that 15 seconds is near freefall, perhaps not so near freefall is a more appropriate claim :)

i guess the NIST and the 911 commission were wrong after all. i wonder were they wrong about anything else?

peace
 
as for the essential free fall speed. i guess i will have to blame my sources

1) Section 6.14.4 NIST NCSTAR 1:


the 9/11 Commission Report , states that the South Tower "collapsed in ten seconds" http://911review.com/errors/wtc/times.html
The NIST report was tasked with investigating the attacks on the trade center, and evaluating improvements to be made in future engineering of buildings, the commission report was tasked with investigating the attacks themselves.

If you have any expectations to use the commission report to contradict the NIST investigation, know that the commission report only deals with the attacks, not the technical details of the collapse and for the same reason does not touch in detail upon WTC 7. The Executive summary talks about the investigation and details surrounding it.


it would be difficult to argue that 15 seconds is near freefall, perhaps not so near freefall is a more appropriate claim :)
I am pleasantly surprised we have finally agreed upon this matter, perhaps not in the context I expected but nevertheless... :)


i guess the NIST and the 911 commission were wrong after all. i wonder were they wrong about anything else?

You simply read NIST flat-out wrong as they didn't claim the buildings took 10 seconds to fall, only that the first sections of debris hi the ground in that span of time... that's not really my problem if you can't put them in context, I highlighted the context for you in red bold letters. As for the commission report... considering it was primarily an investigation of the terror attacks as described above, it wasn't particularly technical (as far as engineering is concerned), to make an attempt to compare it to the NIST report is not doing you any good.

when was it proven according to the scientific method and how?

this point is important to me because i want to establish the claim that in the context of the official hypothesis total collapse remains unproven.

peace

Not sure how exactly to answer the when part but the how is from their investigation up to global instability, up to this point you apparently don't have any significant problems (other than your traditional qualms about the fireproofing, and other issues)... As for the progression that lead to the entire building being destroyed, I'm afraid that until you get over that affliction with 1/5 of a tower vs 4/5 of a tower canard you won't find anything I tell you very convincing. I'm not sure how else to explain it to you, if you can't understand the context I (or any one else) am putting it in.

Sorry if this isn't the answer you're looking for...
 
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