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DC: Why do you think WTC7 was a CD?

Drs_Res said:
Yes, why not bring down those other damaged builds down and piss of the USA even more?

Let me ask you this now.

Can you tell me how long it would take to wire WTC7 for a CD?

And you do know what they have to do to prep a CD, right? ( <--- yes or no to this is fine)
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i cant say how much it would need to wire it. im not a CD expert :)
and i dont know if Jovenko is correct when he said it is possible with a good team to do it on the same day, in a couple of hours.
he didnt know an answer when he got told that the fires was still burning, they didnt fight the fires.

on the other hand, afaik the columns we saw giving away first, the ones under the penthouse, are accesable via the garage.

but i really dont know.
and the prepwork is relatively huge in normal CD's. they remove all the walls and other interior, preweaken columns etc. but thats mostly do to savety reassons. things they did not do for sure on 9/11.

Normaly they even remove the drywalls and other non load bearing walls and columns. because they add up as stiffeners in the building, and then it gets pretty unpredictable to know where the building will collapse, if it will collapse.
so they remove those stuff normaly, so they can minimise the use of explosives and the drillings.
 
Dictator Cheney said:
also that the building came down in almost perfect simetric.
CD experts normally need pretty well calculated delays in theyr sequence to move the building into the direction they want it.
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It's not true that WTC7 came down with almost perfect symmetry, but the fact is that it was symmetrical enough for Dan Rather to remark on it, and thousands of twoofers to do the same. The question is, DC, why would the alleged conspiratators go for a perfect CD? A non-symmetrical CD would be easier to install, have less chance of being uncovered both during installation and prior to detonation, and has the virtue of not looking like a conventional CD! Any thoughts?
 
sleahead said:
It's not true that WTC7 came down with almost perfect symmetry, but the fact is that it was symmetrical enough for Dan Rather to remark on it, and thousands of twoofers to do the same. The question is, DC, why would the alleged conspiratators go for a perfect CD? A non-symmetrical CD would be easier to install, have less chance of being uncovered both during installation and prior to detonation, and has the virtue of not looking like a conventional CD! Any thoughts?
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who is Dan Rather?
 
A TV news presenter, whose comment that the collapse of WTC7 looked like a CD is often used by twoofers. Rather does not believe it was a CD, however, he just said it looked similar to one.
 
sleahead said:
A TV news presenter, whose comment that the collapse of WTC7 looked like a CD is often used by twoofers. Rather does not believe it was a CD, however, he just said it looked similar to one.
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ah ok thx.

well my oppinion is not based on TV comentators :)

when i would base it on other ppls oppinion i would pick Dr. Jörg Schneider, one of the most known structural engineers in my country, he also belives that WTC7 was a CD. But i doubt that he spend alot time into it, i dont know.
 
Thank you.
I never said you were an expert, I am assumeing that you are not, and neither am I.

Correct in part on the prep work.

Now, if you don't pre-weaken the supports that you are going to blow, you need even more or stronger/louder explosives to do the same job.

Yet those explosions are not heard on any of the video.

We also do not see the flashes of the explosives going off.

Can we agree on this?
 
Drs_Res said:
Thank you.
I never said you were an expert, I am assumeing that you are not, and neither am I.

Correct in part on the prep work.

Now, if you don't pre-weaken the supports that you are going to blow, you need even more or stronger/louder explosives to do the same job.

Yet those explosions are not heard on any of the video.

We also do not see the flashes of the explosives going off.

Can we agree on this?
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i would agree that most propably nobody reported explosions from WTC7, and if someone did report it, it was prolly explained away as mistaken as other explosion sounds etc.

i also agree that i dont know any video that shows the flashes inside the building. we can hardly see the damage in videos, and im pretty sure we cannot see the flashes.
 
Dictator Cheney said:
ah ok thx.

well my oppinion is not based on TV comentators :)

when i would base it on other ppls oppinion i would pick Dr. Jörg Schneider, one of the most known structural engineers in my country, he also belives that WTC7 was a CD. But i doubt that he spend alot time into it, i dont know.
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That doesn't answer my question, DC. This is my question:

The question is, DC, why would the alleged conspiratators go for a perfect CD? A non-symmetrical CD would be easier to install, have less chance of being uncovered both during installation and prior to detonation, and has the virtue of not looking like a conventional CD! Any thoughts?
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sleahead said:
That doesn't answer my question, DC. This is my question:
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wouldnt that damage surounding buildings alot more than it did now?
i dont even know theyr motive to CD it. so i for sure dont know why they choosed that kind of CD.
 
Dictator Cheney said:
wouldnt that damage surounding buildings alot more than it did now?
i dont even know theyr motive to CD it. so i for sure dont know why they choosed that kind of CD.
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Why would they care about surrounding buildings? So you have know idea why they blew up a building and chose to make it look like they had blown up a building?
 
sleahead said:
Why would they care about surrounding buildings? So you have know idea why they blew up a building and chose to make it look like they had blown up a building?
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you think they let it look like a CD?
 
Dictator Cheney said:
i would agree that most propably nobody reported explosions from WTC7, and if someone did report it, it was prolly explained away as mistaken as other explosion sounds etc.

i also agree that i dont know any video that shows the flashes inside the building. we can hardly see the damage in videos, and im pretty sure we cannot see the flashes.
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Thank you.

Well, we do know from other CDs that the charges used are VERY loud.

I don't need to point these videos out because they have been posted all over this forum before.

There would be no doubt what they were. The FDNY did not hear them and none of the people in the area heard them either. And they would have been recorded by the equipment recording the event.

I am glad that you acknowledge the lack of flashes from explosives as well.

So we have no sights or sounds that a CD would normally have. All we have is the sight of the building collapsing.

Now, there is something else we do not see, and this relates to the prep work normally done to a building that is to be brought down by CD.

The windows would be removed from the building. Why? Because the shock wave from the explosives would blow them out all over the place and cause damage to people and property.

We do not see the windows being blown out on the videos, do we?
 
Dictator Cheney said:
ah ok thx.

well my oppinion is not based on TV comentators :)

when i would base it on other ppls oppinion i would pick Dr. Jörg Schneider, one of the most known structural engineers in my country, he also belives that WTC7 was a CD. But i doubt that he spend alot time into it, i dont know.
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I think you do know how much time Schneider spent on it, DC.
Didnt he form his opinion from a couple of videos, just like Jowenko and just like you?
 
Drs_Res said:
Thank you.

Well, we do know from other CDs that the charges used are VERY loud.

I don't need to point these videos out because they have been posted all over this forum before.

There would be no doubt what they were. The FDNY did not hear them and none of the people in the area heard them either. And they would have been recorded by the equipment recording the event.

I am glad that you acknowledge the lack of flashes from explosives as well.

So we have no sights or sounds that a CD would normally have. All we have is the sight of the building collapsing.

Now, there is something else we do not see, and this relates to the prep work normally done to a building that is to be brought down by CD.

The windows would be removed from the building. Why? Because the shock wave from the explosives would blow them out all over the place and cause damage to people and property.

We do not see the windows being blown out on the videos, do we?
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therefor we would have to know what kind of explosives or maybe other destructive devices they used.

that could be found out by testing the WTC steel. just a shame the steel is gone.......
 
Dictator Cheney said:
therefor we would have to know what kind of explosives or maybe other destructive devices they used.

that could be found out by testing the WTC steel. just a shame the steel is gone.......
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And you were doing so well DC.

Now you have to jump to unknown and untried methods because it does not look like a CD.
 
scissorhands said:
I think you do know how much time Schneider spent on it, DC.
Didnt he form his opinion from a couple of videos, just like Jowenko and just like you?
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no i dont know how much Schneider looked in to it. i know it alot more about Jovenko, because i saw the complete interview with jovenko, and it is not only looking at some videos. it is also looking at the construction of WTC7 it is also talking about the report from firefighters etc.
the most know part is indeed just 1 look at video and then state his oppinion, but it is more than this, he already watched into it before the interview. and he learned new information during the interview.

sounds like you have no clue at all how much jovenko informed himself and got informed by the reporter that interviewed him, and oh wonder, i even understand the original language used in the interview, Dutch.
 
sounds like you have no clue at all how much jovenko informed himself and got informed by the reporter that interviewed him,
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You mean how he didnt know it was structurally damaged, on fire and collapsed on 9/11, until told so by the reporter?


I wonder why he will no longer discuss his "analysis"?

;)
 
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