The ongoing troofer campaign against JREF!

You could not have created a better poster child for "troll" if you tried.

Well done Tweeter.

TAM
 
There have been a lot of threads opened up recently by troothers. This forum is degenerating and the only way to cut down on the useless posting is to stop feeding the trolls.

It's hard not to reply and I am guilty as charged for falling for the bait but I like JREF and don't want to see it hijacked so I will not reply to trolls anymore.

Just Ignore Them, please. When ignored long enough children go away.
If it were not for truthers, I would never have seen so many Afghan caves that truthers can not find.
It becomes self critiquing, as you research a claim by a truther and discover they are dumber than dirt. Facts and Physics concepts you take for granted are beyond their immature minds, or biased ideas, and clearly not in their tool bag.

It is amazing how shallow the followers of 9/11 truth have become at research, knowledge and logical thinking.
 
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applecorped,

It seems to me that you are using the term "troothers" and "trolls" as if they are synonamous. There are actually 9/11 family members that fully support the Truth Movement. Surely you are not saying these people who just want answers to their many questions about their lost loved ones are "trolls".

I know that if I was a "9-11 family member" I know that I would get nothing but LIES and HALF TRUTHS from the fraud movement.
Oh BUT on the flip side the Truth Movement does a great job on supporting the terrorists!
 
Oh BUT on the flip side the Truth Movement does a great job on supporting the terrorists!


The terrorists don't seem to think so.

Ingrates.
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Yes good point. Truthers are trying to take away their credit and give it the "Bush Crime Syndicate".
 
None of the major claims of the 9/11 Truth Movement have been debunked. NIST doesn't even have a full explanation for the collapse of WTC1,2 and 7 yet. When "debunkers" say that something has been "debunked", it means that they made up an answer to shut down inquiry into 9/11.

I didn't really agree with the OP until I got to this post. Upon reading it, I've changed my mind, because I'm reminded again of just how useless -- yes, useless -- it is to argue with some people. There's really no other way to say this, so I'll just spit it out: anyone capable of writing the words quoted above is simply unreachable by reason, logic, and facts. Such a person is simply unwilling or unable to accept reality, however carefully and irrefutably it is served up to them on a silver platter. I can only assume that such people need to live in a fantasy world. Or they need to argue with someone about something. I could speculate all week as to why such people think the way they do, but it really is pointless. They cannot be changed, and at this point, I think it might be healthier for all involved if they are simply ignored.
 
I suggested a long time ago that the swarming behavior that goes on whenever a new "Truther" posts a thread is unproductive, confusing, and impolite to anyone legitimately interested in answers to their questions. Granted, those folks are few and far between, but they do pop up now and then. I still recommend that individual topics be assigned to a small team. Topics regarding air defenses might best be handled by Gumboot, while topics on planes themselves go to Beachnut and AMTMan. Note: I am not suggesting that the mods handle this, I am suggesting something voluntary, and people could also volunteer to be part of a specific team. There is absolutely no reason why a thread started yesterday on the ridiculous Amero now has 65 replies. Yes, many of the replies are good and substantive, but inevitably the OP can only respond to a few of them, and so the peanut gallery ends up exchanging comments. Many of our threads contain excellent work and valuable information, but sifting through the chaff takes time.


I agree with this wholeheartedly. Some of the threads started by truthers asking "naive" questions do generate some useful information and discussion but it's disheartening to have to read through a thread that has become bloated by bickering, snark and off-topic responses to known trolls.
 
FTR I think Apollo20 and Gregorywhatshisface are pretty good guys.

And Max Photon, if he would ever show his face again.















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Max:
One thing I will always give you credit for. You are the only CT'st (I don't feel it's right to call you a "truther") that has ever made the effort to put together a coherent story. For that you get my respect (although I think your theory is nuts :D).
 
You can insult all you want. The truth is, someone is going to be there everytime to question and harrass (if need be) these liars. Isnt it great?


It must be enormously frustrating that while the evil movement that has enslaved you is built entirely on lies, you can't point to a single lie told by a rationalist.
 
Bobert,
Oh BUT on the flip side the Truth Movement does a great job on supporting the terrorists!
The goal of the Truth Movement is to find out all the details of what happened that day to get past the inconsistencies. The victim's families had a huge list of questions and have stated that only about 30% of their questions got answers from the 9/11 Commission. Remember them? Just how in your opinion does the TM support the terrorists? Are you actually saying that people who show dissent toward or question the government are thereby supporting terrorist activities?
 
Bobert,
The goal of the Truth Movement is to find out all the details of what happened that day ...
Are you actually saying that people who show dissent toward or question the government are thereby supporting terrorist activities?
The truth movement's only goal is to sell false information! You missed that one big time.

9/11 truth sell false ideas (for free), DVDs and Books. The work is based on hearsay, so you can not sue these fraudsters because someone else said it. Just opinions of people who lack knowledge. From Charlie Sheen commenting on flying, as if a high school dropout knows flying, to Dr Jones making up thermite. We have beam weapons from expert nuts, and holograms from insane experts.

The real sign that 9/11 truth is debunked and dead, the terrorist who gave us 9/11, are debunking 9/11 truth. 9/11 truth is as bad as bigfoot and UFOs, and now debunked by the very people who helped bring us 9/11. UBL group is debunking 9/11 truth. Ironic...
 
Bobert,

The goal of the Truth Movement is to find out all the details of what happened that day to get past the inconsistencies. The victim's families had a huge list of questions and have stated that only about 30% of their questions got answers from the 9/11 Commission. Remember them? Just how in your opinion does the TM support the terrorists? Are you actually saying that people who show dissent toward or question the government are thereby supporting terrorist activities?


By saying it was an inside job, the TM is giving the Jihadist's a pass. Maybe they are not directly supporting the terrorists, but they are indirectly. Placing the blame on the U.S. govt without any proof, is extremely irresponsible. It's not JAQ from many in the TM, it is direct blame, there is a big difference.
 
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Bobert,

The goal of the Truth Movement is to find out all the details of what happened that day to get past the inconsistencies. The victim's families had a huge list of questions and have stated that only about 30% of their questions got answers from the 9/11 Commission. Remember them? Just how in your opinion does the TM support the terrorists? Are you actually saying that people who show dissent toward or question the government are thereby supporting terrorist activities?

Right. Right.

That is why Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas laugh at the victims of flight 93 making phone calls to their loved ones before they died.

Thats why Avery insinuated that Bernard Brown sent his son off to die, knowing what would happen.

Thats why a TM member named Jackchit threatened to kill Mark Roberts when he (Jackchit) arrived in New York.

Thats why Kevin Barrett, a TM leader, threatens to have people sent to the Gallows.

Thats why Jim Fetzer made fun of Mark Bingham in his final moments.

I could go on. I am sure you will call the above an appeal to emotion, and damn right it is, but when you post such a BS piece of crap lie like the one above, I have to call you on it.

The Truth Movement is about SO MUCH MORE then finding the answers it is sickening.

get real!

TAM
 
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The real sign that 9/11 truth is debunked and dead, the terrorist who gave us 9/11, are debunking 9/11 truth. 9/11 truth is as bad as bigfoot and UFOs, and now debunked by the very people who helped bring us 9/11. UBL group is debunking 9/11 truth. Ironic...

Uh oh! So does this mean that now its the debunkers who are supporting the Terrorists?

They agree with us!!!!:deconfus:
 
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