"Jersey Girls"

[DC]

There's at least one thread on it somewhere...

Why have you spelled their wrong and put it in quotes?

Here's a thread on "9/11 Press For Truth".

I disagree, however, that "9/11 Press For Truth" is "their" documentary. "Press For Truth" was primarily inspired by and based on Paul Thompson's "9/11 Terror Timeline" and most of the documentary focuses on this. Incidentally it also contradicts its own central premise.

I would argue the documentary that is most "their" documentary is "In Their Own Words" and we have a thread discussing that film too.

This second doco is much better at uncovering just how far gone these Jersey Girls are, because in it they push their own authority on the subject, immediately establishing themselves as more knowledgable than the rest of the public, yet they cannot even get the most fundamentally basic facts correct - such as when the FBI released photographs of the hijackers.

Now, personally I can't believe that four grown women, after 6 years of extensive research, don't know when the FBI released photos of the hijackers, especially considering they claim this particular point is so important.

As demonstrated in that thread, an eight year old child found the task of locating the FBI press release with the photographs to be very straight forward.

So, are these four woman suffering from some form of mental illness, or are they outright liars? Or can you offer an alternative explanation for this unfathomable level of wrongness?

CLE quite noticeably refused to address this point from me, and ran from the thread.

Perhaps you can explain it for me.

thats the only thing they got wrong? not much .
anything else?

 

[LashL]

thats the only thing they got wrong? not much .
anything else?

You obviously did not read the linked threads. Why don't you educate yourself instead of engaging in such trollish behaviour?

 

[Walter Ego]

Originally Posted by Dictator Cheney
thats the only thing they got wrong? not much .
anything else?

DC's English seems to be improving. Hmmm...

 

[DC]

You obviously did not read the linked threads. Why don't you educate yourself instead of engaging in such trollish behaviour?

im sure it also has other countertheorys

 

[SDC]

Hey DC, if you want to fake poor English, you'll need to aim at more consistency. Also, "theyr" is obviously bogus as a misspelling. Even the trollest troll would have noticed by now.

 

[johnny karate]

Why should we concede to the demands of a small minority?

never demanded that :/

DC, I'm quite familiar with the old CTer gambit of "just asking questions" to avoid actually defending a position.

However, my question never referred to a position you personally have assumed. I am referring to the position assumed by the movement you are championing on this forum. Consider yourself outflanked.

So the question remains:

Why should any special consideration be given to the Jersey Girls?

 

[LashL]

im sure it also has other countertheorys

Again: you obviously did not read the linked threads. Why don't you educate yourself instead of simply engaging in trollish behaviour?

 

[gumboot]

thats the only thing they got wrong? not much .
anything else?

*yawn*

You missed my point. I'm not surprised. It didn't have pictures.

 

[tanabear]

So, when they ask this question:

"Why didn't the CIA share vital information about the terrorists with the FBI?"

And they get the response that it was illegal before 9/11 for the FBI and CIA to share it, that is not a good enough answer? Here is where your research fails, because you do not delve into why it was set up that way. Maybe if you did that, you would better understand the answer and why it is the only answer they will ever get.

The answer that it was illegal for the CIA to pass along information FBI is an incorrect answer. It was not illegal. The famous "wall of separation" had to do with regulating the flow of information between FBI intelligence investigations and FBI criminal investigators and prosecutors. James Bamford, along with others, covered and looked into the issue. Here is a passage from his book, A Pretext for War:

The issue of whether Alec Station passed the critical Almidhar passport and visa photocopies to the FBI remains white-hot. "We have documents within the agency that said a photocopy of the passport was sent to the bureau," said a senior intelligence official. "The bureau says they don't have any record of getting it. It was sent from Alec Station-the operator who was working the case, the person who was organizing the whole operation. The point is we have the message that says that was done. What we say about it is there is no reason in the world that she would create a contemporary e-mail and then not do it."

But FBI officials familiar with the issue are just as adamant, and angry, that nothing was passed. "They refused to tell us because they didn't want John O'Neill in particular, muddying up their operation," said one in a December 2003 interview. "They didn't want the bureau meddling in their business-that's why they didn't tell the FBI. Alec Station worked for the CIA's CTC. They purposely hid from the FBI, purposely refused to tell the bureau that they were following a man in Malaysia who had a visa to come to America. The thing was, they didn't want John O'Neill and the FBI running over their case. And that's why September 11th happened. They have blood on their hands. They have three thousand deaths on their hands."

Congressional investigators came down on the side of the FBI. "The weight of the evidence does not support [the CIA's] assertion."
James Bamford, A Pretext for War, page 224.

Regardless of the claims made by the CIA and the FBI, it is clear that it certainly was not illegal for the CIA to pass along information to the FBI.

This also brings up a another issue, the difference between the debunkers and the Truth seekers. "Why didn't the CIA share vital information about the terrorists with the FBI?" The debunkers gave an answer. It was illegal to do so. They are satisfied with this answer, even though it is false. They believe that other people(i.e. the Jersey Girls) should also be satisfied with this answer as well. The debunkers are not capable of distinguishing between truth and falsehood, between correct answers and incorrect answers. As I wrote in a previous post on another topic. If I ask the question, "What year was Napoleon, Emperor of France born?" I receive the answer 1950. That is an answer, but it is the incorrect answer. Should I accept the answer or should I continue to research the issue? If I was a truth seeker I would do the latter, if I was a debunker I would do the former.

That is why we primarily find people of limited intellectual ability and curiosity making up the 9/11 debunking movement. As well, we primarily find the lovers of truth, knowledge and justice making up the 9/11 Truth Movement.

 

[jhunter1163]

Dibs on the Stundie for this one.

 

[Walter Ego]

Dibs on the Stundie for this one.

Do you mean this part?

That is why we primarily find people of limited intellectual ability and curiosity making up the 9/11 debunking movement. As well, we primarily find the lovers of truth, knowledge and justice making up the 9/11 Truth Movement.

I will second that one.

 

[jhunter1163]

Lovers of truth like Lauro Chavez, Torin Wolf, Kevin McPadden, William Rodriguez, David Ray Griffin, Aldo Marquis, Craig Ranke, the fine folks who added flashes and explosions to videos, and so on.

Do you know what all those people have in common, Tanabear? They all told (and in some cases are still telling) LIES to advance their agenda.

Some "truth" movement.

 

[The Big Dog]

"That is why we primarily find people of limited intellectual ability and curiosity making up the 9/11 debunking movement. As well, we primarily find the lovers of truth, knowledge and justice making up the 9/11 Truth Movement."

Oh dear lord! that is hilarious! I can hardly believe you posted such gross nonsense.

Do you know Kevin Barrett: he wants to HANG people who disagree with him.

Do you know Waldo marquis and the rest of CIT? They are delusional anti-science fanatics.

Do you know Killtown? He is an immoral little internet thug who openly mocks the victims of 911.

Do you know Eric Hufschmid? He is a vicious little neo-Nazi, holocaust denier and all around slime bag.

What do they have in common?? they are all truthers.

I will not mention the mentally ill like Dr. Judy, Ace, Sophia Clunkity Clunk, and the rest.

Nice crowd you hang around, tanabear.