[Moderated]List Of NYC Firefighters Who Think Bombs Brought Down The Towers

[Thunder]

Thinking it sounded like a bomb and looked like a bomb, and KNOWING it was a bomb, are two very different things. Sane, intelligent, and rational people understand this.

 

[Pookster]

How about you provide your credentials first. Ive explained why people dont come forth.

Is this going to turn into a subjective debate over what a "meaningful job" is? He has a job with the City of NY. I believe it's safe to assume it has a pay check attached to it. What more could you possibly want?

 

[Par]

Ive explained why people dont come forth.

I thought that the truth was out there. Anyway, why is that? That is, why do people not come forth?

 

[1337m4n]

This thread is ridiculous. Every time someone gives a name you say they`re crazy. The reason 99.9% of people dont speak out and tell the truth is they have something you de-bunkers will never have. A meaningfuljob.

Yes of course Tweeter. I understand. People who know that their own government murdered 3000 people are afraid to say anything about it because they might lose their job.

Do you realize how petty you make the FDNY sound?

 

[DGM]

Yes of course Tweeter. I understand. People who know that their own government murdered 3000 people are afraid to say anything about it because they might lose their job.

Do you realize how petty you make the FDNY sound?

Personally I find that argument more than a little offensive. This is not much different than accusing them of being "in on it" in my book.

 

[Alt+F4]

Is this going to turn into a subjective debate over what a "meaningful job" is? He has a job with the City of NY. I believe it's safe to assume it has a pay check attached to it. What more could you possibly want?

Actually Pookster, I'm a she and a teacher, it's my brother-in-law that's FDNY (now retired).

Tweeter is stating that he knows that FDNY members are coving up a 9/11 "inside job", my request is put up some facts or retract.

 

[Pookster]

Actually Pookster, I'm a she and a teacher, it's my brother-in-law that's FDNY (now retired).

Tweeter is stating that he knows that FDNY members are coving up a 9/11 "inside job", my request is put up some facts or retract.

Opps. I usually don't make too gender goofs.

A teacher sounds like a meaningful job to me. Some children might not though.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=8&aid=74380

Two months have passed since a fire took the lives of two firefighters at the former Deutsche Bank building downtown and now the unions representing the city's Bravest says the FDNY is sabotaging the investigation into what went wrong.

“It clear that the fire commissioner and his top staff have failed to lead the fire department,” said Uniformed Firefighters Association president Steve Cassidy. “They have participated in a cover-up of the facts as it relates to the pre-fire and the post fire. The New York City Fire Department leadership – Sal Cassano, the chief of the department, and others – have made it clear that they do not want the truth to come out.”

... but yet, they're not afraid to speak out over what would be a far, far bigger cover-up.

Why do I not believe that?

Gravy once talked to a firefigther about the notion of people not reporting explosives for fear of losing their jobs:

"Firefighters and their unions don't hesitate to demand that safety issues be addressed. At Farrell's bar in Brooklyn, which is a firefighter and cop hangout, I asked one of New York's Bravest how he would respond to someone who said the 9/11 first responders were keeping quiet about what killed their brothers. He laughed, shook his head, and said, "There better not be a Halligan around. I'd put it through his ******* skull." At the center of Farrell's back bar stands a cross made from WTC steel and a portrait of longtime Farrell's bartender Vinny Brunton, a FDNY Captain with Ladder 105, who died on 9/11."

(http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/whattheyheard)

 

[johnny karate]

This thread is ridiculous. Every time someone gives a name you say they`re crazy.

Incorrect. What has been demonstrated in this thread is that people who supposedly "speak out" aren't necessarily labelled as crazy. We instead label you as a fraud for claiming these people said something they didn't.

Two men have been named in this thread by CTers as firefighters who claimed that the towers were brought done by controlled demolition and/or bombs were present.

As I have clearly shown here this simply is not true. Neither of those firefighter actually made those claims.

Just so we're clear: I'm not calling these men crazy, I'm calling the CTers liars.

The reason 99.9% of people dont speak out and tell the truth is they have something you de-bunkers will never have. A meaningfuljob.

Tweeter, do you personally believe that any rank and file members of the FDNY were complicit either before or after the fact in the supposed 9/11 conspiracy?

 

[NYCEMT86]

I think TC329 is talking about me. I haven't been around because the forum has taken a back seat to other priorities. I don't know where you got this "split" from.


Issac is a buff, he is shunned by members and considered an EDP.


When a widow of one of the firefighters killed at the Deutsch Bank fire was asked to record her grieving as proof of something (I don't know the full details), the members were outraged and tried to organize a protest and they called the lawyer up giving him their opinions on the bs they required.

They are outraged by the cover up of the Deutsch bank. Unfortuantly, its illegal for the firefighters to strike, but they make sure their voice is heard. Still only 1 retired member and one buff has spoken out. Not very impressive for you twoofers.


They will not lose their jobs for speaking out, if that happened, the union would be outraged and sue the department and somebody would be sitting home collecting their 3/4 plus whatever from the lawsuit.

I am tired of the twoofers playing the "but their a 9/11 Hero, how dare you" card. Yes Schroeder is a hero, but it is clear in his interview that he was wrong about details. People can be heros and wrong at the same time.

 

[grmcdorman]

Happy Birthday, NYCEMT86.

 

[ElMondoHummus]

Happy Birthday, NYCEMT86.

^^^ OMG OFFTOPIC!!



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