[Moderated]List Of NYC Firefighters Who Think Bombs Brought Down The Towers

[Good Lt]

the Sulfur levles come from FEMA :/ ill can link it to you if you want, but im sure you know what appendix i mean.

You were shown why sulfur levels were high. Jones edited the crucial information out of that paragraph on purpose so that incurious minds would remain blissfully unaware of them.

One molecule, described by the EPA's Erik Swartz, was present at levels "that dwarfed all others": 1,3-diphenylpropane. "We've never observed it in any sampling we've ever done," Swartz said. He said it was most likely produced by the plastic of tens of thousands of burning computers.

See the bolded, italicized text? That's what Jones left out of his paper - ON PURPOSE.

After all, what good is an asinine conspiracy theory if there is a far more plausible and demonstrable explanation for it?

and about molten aluminium

less than 800° C says Dr. Greenings. well can anyone of you show me molten aluminium at 800°C glowing yellow in daylight, like we saw on video?

LINK THE VIDEO IN QUESTION SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE IT. We're not going to do your homework for you.

then i find the lead acid combination more plausible, has anyone done tests to it, to demonstrate it?

Did you read the link I provided? Is there something MORE plausible?

 

[DC]

This thread has been completely derailed. Can we get back on topic?

As I see it, Dictator Cheney started the list of firefighters who believe in controlled demolition by mentioning John Schroeder. The current consensus now is that Mr. Schroeder never said this.

Dictator Cheney, can you name any other firefighters who believe in CD?

pls?
i didnt start that topic nor any list.
i posted a link about witness reports that describe explosions and such.
i did not claim what those ppl heard are exlosives,
i did not claim that any of those ppl belives in the CD theory.
i mentioned shroeder as the only figherfighter i know of that belives in a CD, what was not really correct, he say, "something was not right that day".

i think this is a huge missunderstanding.

 

[CHF]

This thread has been completely derailed. Can we get back on topic?

As I see it, Dictator Cheney started the list of firefighters who believe in controlled demolition by mentioning John Schroeder. The current consensus now is that Mr. Schroeder never said this.

Dictator Cheney, can you name any other firefighters who believe in CD?

Yeah let's get back on track.

Anyone know of any FDNY who buy into the CD theory?

If not I would think it's time for the TM to stop referring to those who heard "explosions" as proof of a demolition.

 

[DC]

You were shown why sulfur levels were high. Jones edited the crucial information out of that paragraph on purpose so that incurious minds would remain blissfully unaware of them.

See the bolded, italicized text? That's what Jones left out of his paper - ON PURPOSE.

After all, what good is an asinine conspiracy theory if there is a far more plausible and demonstrable explanation for it?



LINK THE VIDEO IN QUESTION SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE IT. We're not going to do your homework for you.



Did you read the link I provided? Is there something MORE plausible?

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=rOq3HYRiG7Y

here a video of the molten something coming out of the WTC

i dont know exactly about the plastic, didnt read that. was that demonstrated?

 

[Totovader]

evidence for what?

that they use huge big fire balls in hollywood productions?

No, Mr. Red Herring- any evidence whatsoever that bombs took down the towers?

You can talk all you want about your non-evidence, but until you have even a shred of support for your absurd claims, why should anyone listen to you?

 

[DC]

No, Mr. Red Herring- any evidence whatsoever that bombs took down the towers?

You can talk all you want about your non-evidence, but until you have even a shred of support for your absurd claims, why should anyone listen to you?

i never wanted you to listen to me. who want to listen to me is free to do so, who does not want to, also os free to not do it. as far i know ther is even a ignore option here.

i have no hard evidence, i see some things as indications for a CD, i doubt Dr. Bazants theory. i think it was not possible for the lower part of the tower to give away the way it happened, without explosives.

this is just my oppinion, im not an expert. so everyone that does not want to listen to me, pls dont listen to me.

and other that want to listen to me and disagree with me, pls do.

 

[Good Lt]

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=rOq3HYRiG7Y

here a video of the molten something coming out of the WTC

i dont know exactly about the plastic, didnt read that. was that demonstrated?

OK. Now I know you didn't read the links I provided. Both of them address that.

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm (Scroll about halfwqay down the page until you come to the picture of the leak in question. You'll know it when you see it.)

http://11-settembre.blogspot.com/2007/02/ups-on-81st-floor-of-wtc2.html

LEAKING BATTERY LEAD - NOT THERMITE. If you have something more plausible, let's hear it.

I'm trying to provide you with answers, DC. You actually have to READ more that the link address to get those answers, not ignore the answer because it doesn't support your predetermined conspiracy endpoint.

Anything else?

 

[CHF]

i never wanted you to listen to me. who want to listen to me is free to do so, who does not want to, also os free to not do it. as far i know ther is even a ignore option here.

i have no hard evidence, i see some things as indications for a CD, i doubt Dr. Bazants theory. i think it was not possible for the lower part of the tower to give away the way it happened, without explosives.

this is just my oppinion, im not an expert. so everyone that does not want to listen to me, pls dont listen to me.

and other that want to listen to me and disagree with me, pls do.

Given that you are not an expert, on what grounds do you dismiss the claims of those who are?

 

[sts60]

I know two FDNY firefighters personally.

They both think Truthers are so full of it that their eyes are brown.

Pretty similar for the FFs I know who were at the Pentagon that day, when it comes to the no-airliner claims for that location...

D.Cheney/Aanthanuur posts 24/7 on youtube about how he isnt convinced by any official explanation of pretty much anything.
He has been doing this in his very boring style for months.
He has lapped up every CT theory about the events of 9/11, including the no plane at shanksville and pentagon flyover and is keen on the moon landing hoax also.

Hey, Dictator Cheney, if that is you, do you want to start an Apollo hoax thread? That would be fun.

 

[Dumb All Over]

Dictator Cheney, can you list any other firefighters who support the CD theory or say that bombs went off in the buildings?

 

[SDC]

I don't think anything will come from "Dictator Cheney" with regard to actual names and evidence. He/ she is just saying that he/ she doesn't like the actual evidence, and I think has already said that he/ she doesn't have any names of firefighters who believe in CD.

Another thread, shot to hell.

 

[DC]

Given that you are not an expert, on what grounds do you dismiss the claims of those who are?

my own logic and the fact that the progressive collapse theory is not reflecting what we saw on TV.

especially confusing is the confusion about the collapse times.
9-11 seconds, but then its 20 seconds.

those experts seems not to be so sure themself.

and especially, NIST only investigated until initial collapse, then we are left with that progressive collapse theory.

 

[Dumb All Over]

my own logic and the fact that the progressive collapse theory is not reflecting what we saw on TV.

[/yada, yada].

And this has to do with the opening post how?

 

[CHF]

my own logic and the fact that the progressive collapse theory is not reflecting what we saw on TV.

Once again we see that years of engineering education and experience cannot compete with some kid's "common sense" and a few clips on youtube.

Anyway, back to those firefighters....got any who think bombs took down the WTC?

 

[Totovader]

i never wanted you to listen to me. who want to listen to me is free to do so, who does not want to, also os free to not do it. as far i know ther is even a ignore option here.

i have no hard evidence, i see some things as indications for a CD, i doubt Dr. Bazants theory. i think it was not possible for the lower part of the tower to give away the way it happened, without explosives.

this is just my oppinion, im not an expert. so everyone that does not want to listen to me, pls dont listen to me.

and other that want to listen to me and disagree with me, pls do.

I didn't ask "Why should I listen to you?" I asked why anyone should listen to you. You don't have any evidence at all, reject expert studies without any reason, claim that the evidence should just be ignored- and then expect people to believe you?

Whether it's your "opinion" or not is irrelevant- you're making claims you can't even begin to support and it doesn't seem to bother you at all.

I disagree with you. And I'm betting any rational person will. Until you have some evidence to support your claims, I'm not sure why you expect to be taken seriously.

 

[TC329]

Dictator- you clearly are not gonna convince us. We are not the uneducated masses that Toothers seem to target. Why are you here?

Dick Cheney could confess to the whole 9/11 scam while holding Bushies hand and Zelikow's and you still wouldn't believe it.

I'll take being a "toother" since that implies you're all a bunch of "non-toothers" and I suspect that maybe accurate in regards to quite a few members, you especially.

 

[CHF]

Dick Cheney could confess to the whole 9/11 scam while holding Bushies hand and Zelikow's and you still wouldn't believe it.

No, I'd believe that.

The problem is that, back in the real world, the closest thing you have to a confession is Silverstein's "pull it."

 

[Dumb All Over]

Dick Cheney could confess to the whole 9/11 scam while holding Bushies hand and Zelikow's and you still wouldn't believe it.

I'll take being a "toother" since that implies you're all a bunch of "non-toothers" and I suspect that maybe accurate in regards to quite a few members, you especially.

Again, I'm not exactly sure what this post has to do with the OP. TC329, can you please tell me how this relates to the subject of this thread?

 

[TC329]

No, I'd believe that.

The problem is that, back in the real world, the closest thing you have to a confession is Silverstein's "pull it."

Really?

What about Rummy talking about the missile that hit the Pentagon and the people who "shot down the plane over Pennsylvania"?

Do those count for anything?

 

[SDC]

TC329... oh, the heck with it.