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Planned Parenthood Racism Investigation

Bah, too much stupid to respond to in detail. Just gonna cut and paste my post on this from a month ago.

Planned Parenthood was originally founded in 1916 by Margaret Sanger, who was a proponent of eugenics at the time. It’s one of those unpleasant facts that the religious right like to pop in there to distract us from their never-ending desire to control every aspect of our lives.

Of course, believing in eugenics in 1916 was kinda like believing in supply-side economics in 1980. The idea was garbage, but a lot of people hadn’t figured it our yet.
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Random said:
Bah, too much stupid to respond to in detail. Just gonna cut and paste my post on this from a month ago.
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The presenter of the fact is not defined by the presentation of the fact nor does this characterization invalidate the fact.

Sorry about your luck. Take a number and try again.
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
I have know idea. Either way the NRA is not funded by tax monies and does not accept donations for the purpose of culling BLACKS.
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Suppose you're right, and I don't think you are. (Although certainly, the OP article does present a real problem.) Planned Parenthood works by providing voluntary services to people. Thus, unless you consider abortion itself to be bad (and if so, that's a whole new thread) then what's the problem? If all of the culling is done through voluntary reproductive technologies, then where's the harm? Black people aren't any better or worse than white people. Having more black people isn't a bad thing, but having less black people is equally not a bad thing. The only problem is what causes the population of black people to increase or decrease.

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JEROME DA GNOME said:
Was it also voluntary in Tuskegee Alabama?
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I'm not sure how you can possibly compare Tuskegee to Planned Parenthood. Tuskeegee worked by keeping black people in the dark about antibiotics. It's significantaly harder to keep black people in the dark about the option about having unprotected sex and then carrying their baby to term. That's kind of the default.
 
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Well, dictionary.com gives us the following definition of "cull"
cull (kŭl) Pronunciation Key
tr.v. culled, cull·ing, culls

1. To pick out from others; select.
2. To gather; collect.
3. To remove rejected members or parts from (a herd, for example).
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Number one does not meet the definition of Planned Parenthoods activities. They are not picking out specific races or individuals, nor can they as the services they offer are voluntary. If Planned Parenthood was forcing anyone to abort their children or issuing mandatory sterilizations, I think we would have heard about it by now.

Two is actually a definition of "cull" I had not heard before, but I also fail to see how it applies.

Three seems to be accurate, although while they are "removing" "rejected" parts, there does seem to be an issue of who is "removing" and who is "rejecting". Again, the fact that the procedures offered by Planned Parenthood are voluntary seems to throw the terminology in doubt. I suppose its possible that black (or BLACK) mothers feel it is their duty to "cull" their own numbers, but in that case Planned Parenthood is just a means to an end.
 
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Three seems to be accurate, although while they are "removing" "rejected" parts, there does seem to be an issue of who is "removing" and who is "rejecting". Again, the fact that the procedures offered by Planned Parenthood are voluntary seems to throw the terminology in doubt. I suppose its possible that black (or BLACK) mothers feel it is their duty to "cull" their own numbers, but in that case Planned Parenthood is just a means to an end.
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Well, if we are going to follow Obama's pastor, than the governmnet sells drugs to the BLACKS, then places the MALES in prison, leaving the females without the ability to care for children, thus when provided with an abortion they have little real choice but to have their numbers culled from the general population.
 
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JEROME DA GNOME said:
Was it also voluntary in Tuskegee Alabama?
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Let's see... a group being victim of government-sponsored study where its members were being denied treatment for a disease, versus a group requesting voluntary abortions and getting them.

Seriously, when will you stop trolling?

JEROME DA GNOME said:
Blacks being targeted with government funds for culling. Patterns of behavior are relevant.
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It was a private donation. And you repeating that voluntary abortions are the same as "culling" does not make it fact.
 
Jerome, how is Planned Parenthood culling black people?

Please state your assertion and what evidence or reasoning lies behind your assertion.
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
Well, if we are going to follow Obama's pastor, than the governmnet sells drugs to the BLACKS, then places the MALES in prison, leaving the females without the ability to care for children, thus when provided with an abortion they have little real choice but to have their numbers culled from the general population.
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Are you sauing that pastors sell drugs to prisinors in order to leave females to provide BLACK abortion drugs in numbers for the general population? Please provide evidence.
 
OK, I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe someone already have said this:

Please please please take up your issues with PEPFAR instead of Planned Parenthood.
As I understand it, PEPFAR actually encourages women to not have abortions by urging them to not have any sex at all before marriage by the Abstention, Be Faithfull rule - both in Africa as well as in the US.

As for Planned Parenthood accepting money from people that wants to abort say 'black children' my take on this is that money is money and donations are donations. If every state agnecy or private sponsorered ageny were to ask people for their *real* motivations to give, and were to say *nay* to the most racial etc. donations, it is my firm belief that funds quickly would run dry. Or think of this way: A man makes a big donation to the Red Cross - but in doing so he asks that the money goes to the Darfur region in Africa. Should the Red Cross not take his money...
 
JEROME DA GNOME said:
The presenter of the fact is not defined by the presentation of the fact nor does this characterization invalidate the fact.

Sorry about your luck. Take a number and try again.
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Shouldn't you present facts before saying that? You have repeatedly been asked for them. You have repeatedly failed.
 
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