[Merged]architects and engineers for 9/11 truth = SCAM!

Myriad said:
There's nothing criminal about misrepresenting oneself as an engineer. It's completely legal under all conceivable circumstances.

I know, because I'm a lawyer.

Respectfully,
Myriad
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If so, that doesn't make it right. Do you have any morals?
 
Totovader said:
The real question is, does AE911Truth have any morals?

The answer is quite obvious.
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Excusing your behaviour by theirs won't cut it.

Whatever you think that site is doing wrong does not give people the right to do what they did.
 
JHarrow said:
If so, that doesn't make it right. Do you have any morals?
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As an Archbishop of the Roman Catholic Church, I assure you that my morals are beyond reproach (except, of course, for that pesky original sin thing).

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
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JHarrow said:
Excusing your behaviour by theirs won't cut it.

Whatever you think that site is doing wrong does not give people the right to do what they did.
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Does a reporter going undercover to expose corruption, incompetence or scams fall under this condemnation by you?
 
kookbreaker said:
Does a reporter going undercover to expose corruption, incompetence or scams fall under this condemnation by you?
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Comparing a group of trolls attacking a perfectly legal website to a professional reporter exposing real crime?
 
JHarrow said:
Comparing a group of trolls attacking a perfectly legal website to a professional reporter exposing real crime?
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Not a crime, incompetence and laziness. Reporters expose that sort of thing all the time.

You're not very good at this 'turn it around' thing, are you?
 
JHarrow said:
Excusing your behaviour by theirs won't cut it.

Whatever you think that site is doing wrong does not give people the right to do what they did.
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So rather than get upset at your AE911 pals for allowing themselves to be so easily conned (and then refusing to remove fake names)....you instead get upset at the people who exposed what a sham AE911 is???

No wonder you guys make the same stupid mistakes over and over again... You're too busy shooting messengers!

Does it bother you at all, JHarrow, that AE911 keeps fake names on their site? Why do you suppose they do that?
 
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Myriad said:
As an Archbishop of the Roman Catholic Church, I assure you that my morals are beyond reproach (except, of course, for that pesky original sin thing).

Respectfully,
Myriad
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Archbishop,

Given that you are both a lawyer and, like me, a Catholic priest, is it possible that you could represent me in a certain indelicate legal matter?

Yours in Christ,

Skinny
 
JHarrow said:
Excusing your behaviour by theirs won't cut it.

Whatever you think that site is doing wrong does not give people the right to do what they did.
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It's the other way around- excusing their behavior by claiming "ours" was "illegal" or "immoral" won't cut it.

Everyone who participated in exposing the lies of AE911Truth (myself included) were perfectly justified and had every right (even a responsibility) to do so.

It doesn't matter how you try and spin it- AE911Truth was wrong. Exposing that lie was necessary and moral.
 
Totovader said:
It's the other way around- excusing their behavior by claiming "ours" was "illegal" or "immoral" won't cut it.

Everyone who participated in exposing the lies of AE911Truth (myself included) were perfectly justified and had every right (even a responsibility) to do so.

It doesn't matter how you try and spin it- AE911Truth was wrong. Exposing that lie was necessary and moral.
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What did they lie about? They had no fake names on until YOU put them there.
 
JHarrow said:
What did they lie about? They had no fake names on until YOU put them there.
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The entire basis for Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth is that they are architects and engineers. They beg for credibility not only by their very name, but by their constantly-shouted roster.

As many suspected, the credibility of those individuals was in question. Through the actions of several members, that lie was exposed. The qualifications of those individuals and the "joining process"- if you will- was proven to be fraudulent.

The fact of the matter is- you cannot show that prior to "our" actions- there were no fake names. Through our actions, that claim was tossed into great doubt- and made irrelevant, to boot.

You cannot demand credibility as a respectable organization if any Joe Schmoe off the street can pretend to have credibility. AE911Truth believed that they could gain credibility by increasing their roster size... clearly, that was the wrong assumption to make.

And, let's not forget these remaining "experts" have added exactly nothing to the debate.
 
Totovader said:
The entire basis for Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth is that they are architects and engineers. They beg for credibility not only by their very name, but by their constantly-shouted roster.

As many suspected, the credibility of those individuals was in question. Through the actions of several members, that lie was exposed. The qualifications of those individuals and the "joining process"- if you will- was proven to be fraudulent.

The fact of the matter is- you cannot show that prior to "our" actions- there were no fake names. Through our actions, that claim was tossed into great doubt- and made irrelevant, to boot.

You cannot demand credibility as a respectable organization if any Joe Schmoe off the street can pretend to have credibility. AE911Truth believed that they could gain credibility by increasing their roster size... clearly, that was the wrong assumption to make.

And, let's not forget these remaining "experts" have added exactly nothing to the debate.
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You faked being engineers. That is your problem not theirs.

I very much doubt anyone would have been stupid or sad enough to fake their name on that roster, until the JREF trolling mob came along and showed their true colours.
 
JHarrow said:
You faked being engineers. That is your problem not theirs.
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Actually, JH, AE911's Mickey Mouse standards of membership is indeed THEIR problem.

It's also THEIR problem if they decide to leave fake names on their list.

How about answering this simple question that you seem determined to avoid: why do you think AE911 continues to include those fake names on their list of "experts" despite being told they were fooled?
 
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