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Have you ever had a "supernatural" experience? How did you rationalize it?

I'm not sure, but I think they're paintbrushes.
They are. Now I'm trying to come up with some kind of 'paint you a hellishly bad picture' pun but they're all coming up lame. Obviously. I fail at this succubus thing. :(

*dances around in some veils*
 
I clearly asked for "references for reading, building a skeptic mindset and the such." I'm not obviously looking for an "answer to all experiences", but further develop my critical thinking is exactly what I'm after, and I'd like suggestions for places to start.
Then check the Book Review thread/forum.

Everyone has weaknesses. It's entirely possible and natural for someone to be rational and logical in all aspects but one regarding one of their weaknesses.
Having a "weakness" does not turn someone to "woo woo"; lack of critical thinking does.
 
I used to live in this little house in Muncie, IN along with my then-fiancee, and I worked nights at the time, so I'd be up all night on my days off. I spent most of my time out in the main living area, and would, at least once or twice a night, hear a noise like someone was pulling open the drawers in the kitchen at the other end of the house and rummaging through the silverware and the implements, or moving the plates around. Once, a bunch of people were hanging out, and we all heard it, but going to the kitchen (I was too spooked to investigate alone) revealed nothing.

That's the sort of thing people usually chalk up to the supernatural. I have no idea what caused it.
 
See, I think it's not entirely impossible for some unidentified natural phenomenon to exist which causes something to appear to move by itself. It'd be rare because it would depend on a *very* specific set of circumstances (therefore it appears to be random), but if real it could explain part of the reason why, at some point in history, we needed to come up with the idea that there are invisible, immaterial beings out there that can affect the material world. Because I'm sure things like that have happened for thousands of years.

Hi Cresur,
Such an event is theoretically possible.

The atoms that make up the bottle (or anything for that matter) all jostle around in a random manner. If all those atoms happened to jostle in the same direction at the same time it would cause the bottle to move.

Of course the chance of this happening is essentially zero.

But still theoretically possible :)
 
Having a "weakness" does not turn someone to "woo woo"; lack of critical thinking does.

So there are no shades of grey about this. You either are "woo-woo" if you lack critical thinking, or you "possess" critical thinking and you are automatically not "woo-woo".

If your daughter one day is taking a real long time to get home from school and you worry that something bad have happened, even though there is no evidence to support this, you are now completely and irrevocably "woo-woo".
 
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Hi Cresur,
Such an event is theoretically possible.

The atoms that make up the bottle (or anything for that matter) all jostle around in a random manner. If all those atoms happened to jostle in the same direction at the same time it would cause the bottle to move.

Of course the chance of this happening is essentially zero.

But still theoretically possible :)
Your not too familiar with Quantum Theory are you?
 
So there are no shades of grey about this. You either are "woo-woo" if you lack critical thinking, or you "possess" critical thinking and you are automatically not "woo-woo".

If your daughter one day is taking a real long time to get home from school and you worry that something bad have happened, even though there is no evidence to support this, you are now completely and irrevocably "woo-woo".
Define woo?

ETA - how could you equate worrying about your child with woo is beyond rational thought.
 
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Define woo?

From Locknar:
Having a "weakness" does not turn someone to "woo woo"; lack of critical thinking does.

Apparently is what you end up having when you don't have critical thinking instead.

In my example your critical thinking would tell you to not worry because there have been no known accidents or incidents at school or anything, so, purely based on the evidence, you should not worry that something bad is the reason for your daughter being late.

But you care for her and you do anyway. So now you are "woo-woo", because no weaknesses can cloud the judgment of a "rational thinking person", ever. When you think rationally, you are infallible.

That's two woos by the way.
 
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From Locknar:


Apparently is what you end up having when you don't have critical thinking instead.

In my example your critical thinking would tell you to not worry because there have been no known accidents or incidents at school or anything, so, purely based on the evidence, you should not worry that something bad is the reason for your daughter being late.

But you care for her and you do anyway. So now you are "woo-woo", because no weaknesses can cloud the judgment of a "rational thinking person", ever. When you think rationally, you are infallible.

That's two woos by the way.
I asked you to define woo. I didn't ask Locknar nor did he attempt to define it. He mentioned what is absent but that isn't the definition. Now can you define woo?
 
I asked you to define woo. I didn't ask Locknar nor did he attempt to define it. He mentioned what is absent but that isn't the definition. Now can you define woo?

I'm new on this board and I don't know the lingo. That interpretation was what I could extract from the way I've seen its usage. He used the word, you should ask him instead.
 
I'm new on this board and I don't know the lingo. That interpretation was what I could extract from the way I've seen its usage. He used the word, you should ask him instead.
This is your thread so no I'm not going to ask him. You can do a search in google by typing define woo-woo. If you were really serious about your question I don't believe you'd hesitate so I am questioning your sincerity.
 
Something unexplained does not equal supernatural. Something that is real would be natural and physical.

If ghosts do exist then they aren't supernatural. They would be real.

I really should not have read this. I'm a fairly recent convert.
 
woo-woo
adj. concerned with emotions, mysticism, or spiritualism; other than rational or scientific; mysterious; new agey. Also n., a person who has mystical or new age beliefs.

Ok, I'm not that familiar with english so I did not know it was a common expression, nor it occurred me to look it up. "Woo-woo" just sounded like "crazy", and I thought it was unfair to chastise someone for having a couple of beliefs that are not completely validated by current science or something. I now see that my replies didn't make a whole lot of sense.

If you were really serious about your question I don't believe you'd hesitate so I am questioning your sincerity.

Which question?
 
Which question?
The one in your OP. now that you know a definition of woo (or woo-woo) can you tell me why worrying about a late child isn't woo? And then tell me why a psychic like Silvia Browne is woo?
 
Of course, it's easy to have supernatural experiences while under the influence of LSD or psilocybin, but this is one I still can't explain.

It was Halloween, and 3 of us were making the rounds through the downtown area of our Florida town, which is notorious for its Hallow's Eve festivities.

At one point, we crossed a street, and halfway across, reality dissolved. Time vanished. Our individual identities disappeared. We were all of one mind. I could still perceive myself and each of my friends (one man, one woman, none of us romantically involved) but it was as if we were various aspects of a single mind. It was immensely expansive and euphoric. There was no perception of a physical reality.

It's impossible to say how long this lasted, or that it lasted any period of time at all, but subsequently (if that term makes sense in this context) reality reassembled itself and we were still in mid-stride.

No one spoke, but my experience was that we were all aware of what had happened. We continued on our way -- we were, after all, in a downtown crosswalk on Halloween night -- until we reached the sidewalk, where we all stopped.

We were walking to a club and had been walking steadily up til then, but we all stopped and turned toward each other and simply stared.

"Wow", said my male friend. "That was like the ultimate acid orgasm".

Yes, we'd all dropped at the same time, but an acid trip isn't precise enough to propose that we all had an exactly timed simultaneous peak.

We laughed, shook our heads, and kept going.

As for how I rationalize it; I don't. It's just something I can't explain.
 
now that you know a definition of woo (or woo-woo) can you tell me why worrying about a late child isn't woo? And then tell me why a psychic like Silvia Browne is woo?

Well, if you decide to focus on the first 3 words of that definition, worrying about a late child can be woo :)

But yeah, sure.
 

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