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9/11 mastermind/Guantanamo detainee trials to begin

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/03/16/news/CB-GEN-Mind-of-Mohammed.php?page=1

Mohammed's statements during a hearing at Guantanamo Bay, in which he freely confessed to planning 31 terrorist attacks, also raises questions about the effect that years of rough CIA interrogations may have had — and whether his confession is valid.

Later in the encounter, Mohammed said he and other prisoners had made false statements during interrogation, apparently under torture. He submitted a written statement about how he allegedly was tortured, but the military refused to divulge it. Human Rights Watch on Thursday urged its release.

"I see him as rather feisty and combative and nothing indicating a guy confessing things after being ... tortured," said Jerrold M. Post, director of the Political Psychology Program at George Washington University and a 21-year veteran of the CIA. "He's somewhat proudly stating, perhaps overstating, the extent of the operations he has been involved with."

Mohammed might be exaggerating the number of targets he intended to attack in order to spread "the message of fear," Post said.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1322866

CIA's Harsh Interrogation Techniques Described
Sources Say Agency's Tactics Lead to Questionable Confessions, Sometimes to Death

It is "bad interrogation. I mean you can get anyone to confess to anything if the torture's bad enough," said former CIA officer Bob Baer.
 
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/03/16/news/CB-GEN-Mind-of-Mohammed.php?page=1

Mohammed's statements during a hearing at Guantanamo Bay, in which he freely confessed to planning 31 terrorist attacks, also raises questions about the effect that years of rough CIA interrogations may have had — and whether his confession is valid.

Later in the encounter, Mohammed said he and other prisoners had made false statements during interrogation, apparently under torture. He submitted a written statement about how he allegedly was tortured, but the military refused to divulge it. Human Rights Watch on Thursday urged its release.

"I see him as rather feisty and combative and nothing indicating a guy confessing things after being ... tortured," said Jerrold M. Post, director of the Political Psychology Program at George Washington University and a 21-year veteran of the CIA. "He's somewhat proudly stating, perhaps overstating, the extent of the operations he has been involved with."

Mohammed might be exaggerating the number of targets he intended to attack in order to spread "the message of fear," Post said.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1322866

CIA's Harsh Interrogation Techniques Described
Sources Say Agency's Tactics Lead to Questionable Confessions, Sometimes to Death

It is "bad interrogation. I mean you can get anyone to confess to anything if the torture's bad enough," said former CIA officer Bob Baer.


nothing about Lincoln then. I guess that means you're full of it, eh?
 
nothing about Lincoln then. I guess that means you're full of it, eh?

What there is nothing of is any actual evidence he planned 9/11. So I guess the likes of you and some others have been full of it and failing all along. But that's nothing new for you is it?
 
nothing about Lincoln then. I guess that means you're full of it, eh?
What there is nothing of is any actual evidence he planned 9/11.


Firstly, you tried to illegitimately shift the burden of proof. Now, you are simply trying to change the subject. These are extremely weak and dishonest ways in which to behave. Perhaps you should do the right thing and acknowledge that your Lincoln claim is utterly without foundation.
 
Firstly, you tried to illegitimately shift the burden of proof. Now, you are simply trying to change the subject. These are extremely weak and dishonest ways in which to behave. Perhaps you should do the right thing and acknowledge that your Lincoln claim is utterly without foundation.

Did you really take the Lincoln reference seriously or is that just the best you got?
 
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Where did KSM confess to the Lincoln assassination?

Just for reference before we have the inevitable 'People under torture will say anything', KSM did not give up the location of two spies in California and South Africa, even though both Dhiren Barot and Hambali say that KSM provided him with their information.

Yes and it must be true because two stand-up well respected terrorist say so.
 
Did you really take the Lincoln reference seriously or is that just the best you got?


You’re a real tough cookie with a long history...

Anyway, you were merely joking. I see. In light of that, it seems rather peculiar that you were trying to shift the burden of proof and change the subject. Oh well. At least the issue is settled. That’s something.
 
KSH is ambiguity-reducing deception

911 mastermind trial to begin.

It sounds like the trial already ended.


By the way, that someone confessed to masterminding 911 is but ambiguity-reducing deception.

Some of you may know this as the good old fashioned assumptive close.

Remember, the function of ambiguity-reducing deception is to make deception targets certain, decisive, and wrong.

Trust me, I'm right.
 
Trust me, I'm a stomach.

By the way, that someone confessed to masterminding 911 is but ambiguity-reducing deception. Some of you may know this as the good old fashioned assumptive close. Remember, the function of ambiguity-reducing deception is to make deception targets certain, decisive, and wrong. Trust me, I'm right.


I notice that you’re indulging in more of your “Evidence is lies; I am truth; I am God” stuff. I’m not sure why you bother with it, to be honest. No one’s going to fall for it. It’s a waste of time – always a waste of time.
 
911 mastermind trial to begin.

It sounds like the trial already ended.


By the way, that someone confessed to masterminding 911 is but ambiguity-reducing deception.

Some of you may know this as the good old fashioned assumptive close.

Remember, the function of ambiguity-reducing deception is to make deception targets certain, decisive, and wrong.

Trust me, I'm right.

I'm glad you reduced that ambiguity for us. Does this mean that your efforts are a deception?

I have to admit...you do have a way with irony.
 
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911 was an inside job.
The war on Afghanistan was an inside job.
The war on Iraq was an inside job.

Do we need aliens to to understand what is happening in the world?

I don´t think so.

Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib and Falluja are inside jobs...

So now you might ask me what is the "inside"?
Any insights?
 
911 was an inside job.
The war on Afghanistan was an inside job.
The war on Iraq was an inside job.

Do we need aliens to to understand what is happening in the world?

I don´t think so.

Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib and Falluja are inside jobs...

So now you might ask me what is the "inside"?
Any insights?

Well, I want to know if there are any outside jobs... Or is every bad thing that happens done as part of a conspiracy to deceive the sheeple?
 
I just want to rule out the "aliens" as being the agents of doing the bad things.

I guess you listen to your heart when your brain is aching.

And the "sheeple" inside needs a lot of tender.

I have students and grandchildren. WWII and the concentration camps. When will we ever learn?

Brainache, I don´t think there are any outside jobs. We have to do it from the inside anyhow.



Truth,
 

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