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Gardasil vaccine

Blue Wode

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I have understood the Gardasil vaccine to be safe and effective:
http://www.aafp.org:80/afp/20070815/steps.html

However, I have just read this:

European regulators will continue to monitor the safety of a cervical cancer jab after two girls died suddenly, it has been announced.

Gardasil, a vaccine that may be included in the UK's schoolgirl vaccination programme, is being monitored by the European Medicines Agency (EMEA).

It has received reports of deaths in females given the jab, including "two reports concerning the sudden and unexpected deaths of two young women". One of the young women died in Germany while the other died in Austria.

The EMEA said: "In both cases, the cause of death could not be identified. No causal relationship has been established between the deaths of the young women and the administration of Gardasil.

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http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hKhvXTpmJ-_ZsFJvs3xksvfsZJEQ
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If it wasn't a reaction to the jab, does anyone know what these two unfortunate young women could have died from that would be undetectable?
 
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Blue Wode said:
I have understood the Gardasil vaccine to be safe and effective:
http://www.aafp.org:80/afp/20070815/steps.html

However, I have just read this:




If it wasn't a reaction to the jab, does anyone know what these two unfortunate girls could have died from that would be undetectable?
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Sure. Off the top of my head:

Undiagnosed heart problems.
Stroke.
Bad drugs.

and because it looks like the flu at first:

Bacterial meningitis.

The article doesn't really give enough information to really speculate though. As it stands, the girls died and they both got the jab. That's all we know.
 
But wouldn't those conditions be identified as a result of the (presumed) autopsies?
 
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Blue Wode said:
But wouldn't those conditions be identified as a result of the (presumed) autopsies?
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I would think a cause of death would come out of any autopsy. Saying that they one couldn't might indicate the interaction of several things.

I thought of another one: Allergic reaction.
 
I read an interesting stat. The HPV virus is so common that 80% of women will be infected by it by the time they reach the age of 50.
 
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Most vaccinations come with risks, so if there were a few deaths that are linked to this one, I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
 
Sometimes people die suddenly and unexpectedly. If you vaccinate enough people, eventually some of them will die suddenly and unexpectedly after the vaccination. However, this doesn't necessarily prove the vaccination was the cause of the deaths. The autopsies did not provide a cause of death so the vaccine hasn't been 'linked' to anything (so far).
 
I live in the greater Seattle area and I haven't seen any advertising for this.

I went up to Canada for a bit and I noticed billboard ads for Gardisil all over the place. Any idea why this might be? Has anyone seen Gardisil ads in the states?
 
There have been safety concerns, and previously reported deaths.
Of the total VAERS reports, 94 (5 percent) are defined as serious. They include 13 unconfirmed reports of Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS), a neurological illness resulting in muscle weakness and sometimes in paralysis. It is important to know that some cases of GBS will occur by coincidence following vaccination but not because of vaccination.
There also have been four deaths reported among females who received the HPV vaccine: One involving a blood clot in the lungs (pulmonary embolism); one involving inflammation of the heart muscle due to influenza; one from a blood clot; and one from multiorgan system failure due to influenza infection unrelated to vaccination. Preliminary data indicate that the two women who died of blood clots were taking birth control pills, and blood clots are a known risk associated with birth control pills. All four deaths are being fully investigated but none appear to be caused by vaccination.
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That was in May 2007. These new reports may be very much the same - coincidence. Yet it is prudent to monitor and investigate each case.

I also recall a whole lot of schoolgirls in Australia having mass hysteria after vaccination.

As for sudden death in a young woman - Pulmonary embolus, anaphylactic reactions, cerebral or subarachnoid haemorrhage (but not stroke as such) sudden overwhelming sepsis, undiagnosed underlying cardiac abnormmalities such as cardiomyopathy, drug overdose all spring to mind.

Autopsy will be usual in sudden death cases.
 
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I think studies show it prevents most types of HPV infection, which is a pre-requisite for invasive cancer. It can prevent CIN (precancer) but I don't think studies have been done long enough to say conclusively it prevents invasive cancer.
Logic, and Humean philosophy, suggest it will, since cancer rates in those without HPV are trivial.
 
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NewtonTrino said:
I live in the greater Seattle area and I haven't seen any advertising for this.

I went up to Canada for a bit and I noticed billboard ads for Gardisil all over the place. Any idea why this might be? Has anyone seen Gardisil ads in the states?
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Yes, but only on television, no billboards. My daughter has received two of the series of three shots:
http://www.metrokc.gov/health/news/07052301.htm

By the way, a local researcher was a key to this vaccine:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/pacificnw09232007/2003889058_pacificplaura23.html
 
It is not at all unusual for a few people to die of any vaccine.

Some people are allergic to the medium a vaccine is grown in, for one thing.

Sometimes the vaccine itself is dangerous.

The polio vaccine kills people. And not always the people it is protecting! It is a live vaccine, and when an older person who either never was vaccinated or whose immunity has faded changes the diapers they can contract it.

And sometimes the batch is contaminated or old or counterfeit.
 
Thanks for your replies everyone, although I’d still like to know why it can’t be determined what the two girls mentioned in the OP died from.

Regards the overall safety of Gardasil, today’s Telegraph gives seems to sum it up quite well:

"On the basis of the currently available evidence, the EMEA's committee for medicinal products for human use is of the opinion that the benefits of Gardasil continue to outweigh its risks and that no changes to its product information are necessary."

Monitoring of the vaccine will continue.

Nicholas Kitchin, medical director of Sanofi Pasteur MSD, which collaborated in the development of Gardasil, said 13 million doses of the vaccine had been administered worldwide since mid-2006 and it had a very good safety profile in clinical trials.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...FFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2008/01/25/njab125.xml
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However, having read recently that there are no clinical data in girls younger than 15, I find it a little challenging that 11-13 year old girls in the UK are likely to be offered the vaccination in the very near future. As a matter of ethics, presumably their parents will be told about the incomplete data.
 
NewtonTrino said:
I live in the greater Seattle area and I haven't seen any advertising for this.

I went up to Canada for a bit and I noticed billboard ads for Gardisil all over the place. Any idea why this might be? Has anyone seen Gardisil ads in the states?
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They are on TV and most likely some billboards, the "One Less" campaign. Of course our religous freals oppose it.
 
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