[Merged]Atheism is a really bogus philosophy

Dang it. I fell for it. I got sucked in to a thread by someone who has no intention of posting replies.

bwinwright just begins a thread and runs away. He has started 6 thread with a total of 8 posts.

I feel violated.

Something doesn't add up, then... :p


At any rate, I don't think this fellow has bothered to do any sort of research, even the most perfunctory of which would have revealed to him that his definition of atheism is somewhat peculiar, to say the least.
 
You're bogus. I think Atheism is a tubular philosophy. Totally radical, like, for sure. Yours makes me wanna go, ya know, like "Gag me with a spoon."

ETA: Damn, de Carabas beat me to it. :(
 
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I find that good thinking.

What order have you found that has allowed you to deny at 100% probability involvement of intelligent direction?

Um...I haven't had to give up yet?

But where did the "deny at 100% probability involvement of intelligent direction" come from?

Linda
 
You're bogus. I think Atheism is a tubular philosophy. Totally radical, like, for sure. Yours makes me wanna go, ya know, like "Gag me with a spoon."

ETA: Damn, de Carabas beat me to it. :(

Mega, dude.

Linda
 
Wow, we've never ever heard any of that before. You have produced completely original and profound thinking, that we'll be sure to examine in detail. Thank you so much for enlightening us... [/sarcasm]

I thought he was being sarcastic - you know, with the exactly 365.2422 thing
 
Dude, didja ever think, like, our universe might be just one single atom on a great big giant's fingernail?


WHOA!
 
To deny the existence of an intelligence which is both wiser and more powerful than man means you must believe that ORDER DOES NOT REQUIRE INTELLIGENT DIRECTION. The FACT is, this is impossible!

Ever seen a snowflake form?

There are numerous examples of incredibly sophisticated and complex orderliness which are beyond the capabilities of man to produce. An eagle, for example, can do things man simply can not replicate, regardless of the nature of man's efforts. Plus, the eagle can reproduce.

Go crack a book on evolution.

The EARTH, itself, is traveling through space at 18.51 miles per second or 66,636 mph, constantly, on its annual orbit around the Sun which it completes once every 365.2422 days, precisely. This mechanical process is far more durable and precise than any watch or clock man has ever been able to make.

In point of fact the precise time the Earth takes to go around the sun varies every year, and that variation is well within the precision of an atomic clock.
 
From a misunderstanding of the word "atheist" I suspect.
Yeah, there appears to be a lot of that misunderstanding going around.

fls: Should I not assume anyone here naming themself an atheist is not also a physicalist? If a physicalist, what's the problem with 100% certainty that intelligent direction is not available?

Hence, the question to you. What order have you found that doesn't allow your 100% denial?
 
Yeah, there appears to be a lot of that misunderstanding going around.

fls: Should I not assume anyone here naming themself an atheist is not also a physicalist? If a physicalist, what's the problem with 100% certainty that intelligent direction is not available?

Hence, the question to you. What order have you found that doesn't allow your 100% denial?

My answer not fls's:

I do not have 100% certainty about any of my beliefs except "cogito ergo sum". My atheism is no different.
 
:D In my opinion, atheism is a bogus philosophy, at least for all practical purposes. Maybe it's just a crappy word. Sure, I can understand someone wanting to call their self an atheist to avoid being associated with some organized religion, which I believe are also bogus as Hell.

However, to suggest you do not believe in an intelligence and power which dramatically transcends that of mankind is, to me, ludicrous. Maybe this intelligence and power is really called TOTO or something else. However, to deny that it exists is absolutely ridiculous. Why ridiculous?

To deny the existence of an intelligence which is both wiser and more powerful than man means you must believe that ORDER DOES NOT REQUIRE INTELLIGENT DIRECTION. The FACT is, this is impossible!

There are numerous examples of incredibly sophisticated and complex orderliness which are beyond the capabilities of man to produce. An eagle, for example, can do things man simply can not replicate, regardless of the nature of man's efforts. Plus, the eagle can reproduce.

The EARTH, itself, is traveling through space at 18.51 miles per second or 66,636 mph, constantly, on its annual orbit around the Sun which it completes once every 365.2422 days, precisely. This mechanical process is far more durable and precise than any watch or clock man has ever been able to make.

Therefore, call it God, TOTO, or whatever you like..but it "is" here. To deny it is simply insanity. Therefore, you atheists need to be more specific or people will just think you're NUTS!!!!!


Dave's not here, man.
 
Should I not assume anyone here naming themself an atheist is not also a physicalist?

You should never assume anything about atheists besides a lock of a belief in gods... atheism isn't a belief system.
 
Obviously this point of view has been dealt with here before. But since no one has posted a link to the relevant threads, and since I haven't frequented them, in the interest of expanding my own knowledge of Skeptism 101, I have a couple questions.

First, what is TOTO?

Second, if bwinwright were to come back, and I were to ask him "Why does the fact that certain things are beyond man's ability imply there is an intelligent direction?", how would he be likely to answer me?


What reasons do these sort of people give for thinking that order requires intelligence? If I drop a bunch of pinballs through a Plinko machine, I'm gonna get a bell curve. Order, no design. Voila.
 

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