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Bigfoot: The Invisible Variety

I was on one of the expeditions stated above and I know who Historian is. I have no wish to get into a war of words with him, but I do not appreciate being labeled as someone who believes in paranormal aspects of sasquatch

This is completely untrue.

I would like to state for the record that I believe sasquatch is a flesh and blood animal. I do not believe sasquatch is paranormal in any way. I have stated this both publicly and privately. Anyone who states that I believe otherwise obviously does not know me.

To the best of my knowledge at no time did anyone on my particular expedition state anything about hiding or denying paranormal beliefs. At the time of this particular expedition I was a curator with the BFRO. I was well informed on all aspects of this trip. I am no longer a member of the BFRO. Several of the people mentioned in the post made by "Historian" have also left the BFRO.

I will also state that I have never heard of or taken part of any telephone harassment towards those with paranormal sasquatch beliefs. However, I have been known to argue online with those who try to convince me of their paranormal beliefs. I have found (especially in this case) that my time and energy is better spent elsewhere.

Thank you for your time
Redwolf

Rats! I guess, we can officially scratch Redwolf off of the closet paranormal list. It is encouraging that she has chosen to take an admirable approach to addressing this subject, though. Apparently the BFRO way, has finally worn off. My recollection of her experiences at the little ladies room, would cause me to question her claim, however. But we will take her word for it. She was not however, on the following October expedition in the same general area.

First thing out of MM's mouth on the October trip, once he got everyone assembled at the old campsite was, "Bigfoot are paranormal". He may have followed up that and stated "paranormal meant invisible". But there was a long list of BFRO people who mentioned to me particularly on the first trip that Bigfoot was paranormal, since there are still others not yet crossed off of the aformentioned list. I would add Tom Yamarone and Mel Skahan to that list in place of Redwolf, just so the list does not get any shorter. We can't have that. It's not our way, ya know. I know for a fact that Todd Neiss was there and was and still is a flesh and blood believer, even though he personally related an experience on that trip where he described a nearby invisible bigfoot, but failed to accept it. Mel Skahan was there and has apparently finally come out of the closet after a scolding for not listening to his own tribe, and you can see that from the Canadian interview here: http://www.mid-americabigfoot.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=2363
Bob Gimlin was on both trips. He is a 24/7 flesh and blood die hard believer. And of course, Kathy Strain publicly claims to be a 24/7 flesh and blood believer, but I personally have my doubts as she is well aware. So we can save her the time of reposting that apparent fact here.

The defining evidence was the Paranormal Potty procedure that was developed for the women on the first August trip. They apparently lived in fear of using the latrine, because of what they thought was the possibility of being abducted by an invisible bigfoot, while caught in an unladylike position. Which is one of two reasons why they moved the following expedition's central camp to a developed campground by the thunderous ocean with masonry block restrooms and lights. Where you couldn't hear someone yelling in your face, much less hear an invisible bigfoot sneaking up to the main tent, which is exactly what happened at the August trip. The other reason was of course, was so MM could sleep in a warm hotel next door and take warm showers. Can't fault him for that. It was the beginning of winter.
 
Sorry to start your new year off so poorly Arti, but I recorded much of the Kaku interview on Coast to Coast, then, realizing that he was hinting at the existence of people living in higher dimensions such as leprachauns, wood gnomes and Bigfoot...
I very much doubt that he was hinting at any such thing. I think your fertile imagination linked a few of the things he was saying to concepts that you already had in your head, and jumped on them thinking that they somehow supported your fantasies.

...The reason being is that there is a program of telephone harassment reserved for those who propose that bigfoot is paranormal.
And presumably you have been on the receiving end of this harassment?

But I know what they really believe. And so do you.
I've never heard of a single one of them (Bobo? Is that someone's dog?) so how can I know what they believe?

Don't string theorists posit a universe strewn with multiple dimensions? Or is multiple universes occupying multiple dimensions? Whatever.
String theory requires multiple dimensions beyond the four spacetime dimensions we are able to perceive. All of these extra dimensions are coiled up into a very tiny (many times smaller than a proton) multidimensional shape known as a Calabi-Yau shape. The extra dimensions exist in all points of our known four-dimensional spacetime, but they are too small for anything except strings to inhabit. Kaku knows this. Historian doesn't.

There are more recent speculations along the lines that one or more of these additional dimensions may be large, like our normal spacetime, but that does not mean that matter and energy can routinely travel through them. In fact I believe that gravity is currently understood to be the only force which can have an affect in these extra "expanded" dimensions, which may go some way towards explaining dark energy and the acceleration of spacetime inflation. Kaku knows this. Historian doesn't.

Historian is still enamoured of the pulp science fiction idea that extra dimensions are entire parallel spacetimes which coexist with ours. String/M theory does not support this idea in any way whatsoever. Kaku knows this. Historian doesn't.
 
Rats! I guess, we can officially scratch Redwolf off of the closet paranormal list.

Don't worry, you still have Bobo. At first, I couldn't believe my eyes. No, not my Bobo! Say it ain't so. Then a cold mantle of resignation enveloped me and I knew I had lost Bobo to IBF and the Fourth Dimension.

Alas, Bobo, I knew thee well.

:covereyes:covereyes:covereyes:covereyes:covereyes
 
I've never heard of a single one of them (Bobo? Is that someone's dog?) so how can I know what they believe?

You are blogging in from downunder. That explains all of your comments.

Even USA's No. 1 NSA bigfoot research mole, has admitted that I am one of the few people in the country that has a handle on Bigfoot. I see very little in your entire post, that makes sense to me. But we are all entitled to our own opinions. Let me know when you figure out how they pulled off the Philadelphia Experiment then. Local Philadelphians and Navy personnel have confirmed to me that it actually happened.
 
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I see very little in your entire post, that makes sense to me.
That's because I have a basic understanding on what string/M theory proposes about higher dimensions, and you don't.

But we are all entitled to our own opinions. Let me know when you figure out how they pulled off the Philadelphia Experiment then. Local Philadelphians and Navy personnel have confirmed to me that it actually happened.

If such an experiment actually occurred (which all evidence suggests that it didn't), it had something to do with fledgeling stealth technology and invisibility to radar and magnetic torpedoes and mines, with a story apocryphally inflated and elaborated to involve invisibility to the naked eye. I presume you're trying to claim that the vessel was made to enter another dimension, right?
 
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Even USA's No. 1 NSA bigfoot research mole, has admitted that I am one of the few people in the country that has a handle on Bigfoot. I see very little in your entire post, that makes sense to me. But we are all entitled to our own opinions. Let me know when you figure out how they pulled off the Philadelphia Experiment then. Local Philadelphians and Navy personnel have confirmed to me that it actually happened.
So who is the "USA's No .1 NSA bigfoot research mole" eh? I mean, you seem to have no issue spouting off other "secret" or otherwise "restricted" information....so why not a name?

As to the Philadelphia Experiment...again names. Who in the Navy has confirmed this to you? What did they confirm? When?
 
That's because I have a basic understanding on what string/M theory proposes about higher dimensions, and you don't.



If such an experiment actually occurred (which all evidence suggests that it didn't), it had something to do with fledgeling stealth technology and invisibility to radar and magnetic torpedoes and mines, with a story apocryphally inflated and elaborated to involve invisibility to the naked eye. I presume you're trying to claim that the vessel was made to enter another dimension, right?


It is well documented on the internet. I do not have to repeat it here. Apparently, it not only disappeared, but it may have made a round trip into the future and returned. And it may have absorbed a few of the crew that were the onboard guinea pigs. There is no evidence to suggest that it did not happen that I am aware, other than standard deniability games, like Roswell.
 
So who is the "USA's No .1 NSA bigfoot research mole" eh? I mean, you seem to have no issue spouting off other "secret" or otherwise "restricted" information....so why not a name?

As to the Philadelphia Experiment...again names. Who in the Navy has confirmed this to you? What did they confirm? When?

Sorry, no names. It's a liability thing. No Navy names either. If I told you, then I would .... you know how it ends. Oh, and try using "please".

Here is one account. If you can't deal with invisibility, just imagine another word in it's place: http://www.spiritual-endeavors.org/abilities/phila.htm
 
It is well documented on the internet. I do not have to repeat it here. Apparently, it not only disappeared, but it may have made a round trip into the future and returned. And it may have absorbed a few of the crew that were the onboard guinea pigs. There is no evidence to suggest that it did not happen that I am aware, other than standard deniability games, like Roswell.

Unfortunately there is also a complete lack of evidence that it *did* occur, except for the rantings of some guy with a history of mental illness, apparently.

Mental illness seems to be a common thread with these sorts of conspiracy theories I find.

If you can produce some evidence to the contrary, please do. Im sure the conspiracy nuts are panting for it.
 
It is well documented on the internet.
Oh, so it's obviously true then. Silly me.

Apparently, it not only disappeared, but it may have made a round trip into the future and returned.
Interesting, since time travel into the future is only possible by travelling at speeds close to the speed of light, or immersion in an intense gravitational field. Backwards travel through time, while not expressly forbidden by general relativity, is theoretically acheivable only by some rather unrealistic methods of warping spacetime - does a spinning cylinder the size of the solar system sound familiar?

And it may have absorbed a few of the crew that were the onboard guinea pigs.
"Absorbed". What exactly does that mean? Are you saying that the ship ate the crew?

There is no evidence to suggest that it did not happen that I am aware, other than standard deniability games, like Roswell.
The experiment is alleged to have taken place in Philadelphia while the USS Eldridge is known to have been in the Bahamas on its shakedown cruise.

But let's not let any of those pesky facts get in the way. After all, look at Roswell.
 
Here is one account. If you can't deal with invisibility, just imagine another word in it's place: http://www.spiritual-endeavors.org/abilities/phila.htm
Ah, an account which claims to be from someone who was on board the ship when it happened. I wonder whether they burst into flames too.

Damn, this thing reads like H.P. Lovecraft! "I could not shake from my mind the horror that I witnessed when we placed small animals in metal cages made of different materials, and strategically positioning them throughout the confines of the ship..."

Who wrote this anyway?... Hmm, let's see...

Drue. No surname given, although a post office box and telephone number are. Perhaps someone in the States would like to contact "Drue" and find out his or her surname and cross-check with US Naval records to see whether they were actually on the ship or not?
 
Hmm, yes.....

The Philadelphia Experiment - a well know hoax, with details (real facts!) such as Arthwollipot mentioned - the ship was at sea on it's shake-down cruise - that prove it couldn't possibly have happened.

Unless.....

Of course - the Eldridge records MUST have been doctored by the evil Gubment.
And as the ship was, to all intents and purposes, invisible in Philadelphia, this must prove that the experiment was successful! :D

Well, I'm totally convinced....

Oops - forgot to put my tin-foil hat on - but I'm alright now :)

YBW
 
Ah, an account which claims to be from someone who was on board the ship when it happened. I wonder whether they burst into flames too.

Damn, this thing reads like H.P. Lovecraft! "I could not shake from my mind the horror that I witnessed when we placed small animals in metal cages made of different materials, and strategically positioning them throughout the confines of the ship..."

Who wrote this anyway?... Hmm, let's see...

Drue. No surname given, although a post office box and telephone number are. Perhaps someone in the States would like to contact "Drue" and find out his or her surname and cross-check with US Naval records to see whether they were actually on the ship or not?
Reads like a joke. This article is from the Navy Historical Center, if anyone cares.

Historian is welcome to refute it of course...with facts vs his usual made-up evidence and excuses.
 
Reads like a joke. This article is from the Navy Historical Center, if anyone cares.

Historian is welcome to refute it of course...with facts vs his usual made-up evidence and excuses.

Let me see here, they put 3 agents posting from overseas on the day shift today, plus a kid from New York City. Gee, can't get any closer to Philly than that. Overseas posters would ordinarily not have any interest in the subject, yet these 3 are consumed with debunking it. The U.S. Dept. of Navy, thanks you for a job well done. The Navy is never going to live down the Montalk debacle, but you guys can at least take the bite off of it.
 
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