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Bigfoot - The Patterson-Gimlin Film

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Dfoot said:
Next week will be the one about why the PG film is real. Unfortunately I've already found the very mask used in that film right here in good ol' Hollywood USA so I may have a problem with their science in the next ep.

I don't know if there is a Bigfoot in existence, but I do know that the films and footprints I've seen are all faked. That leaves me with belief in those who claim sightings. God bless them all.
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Is Dfoot doing a show on this find? This has the possibilities of an Al Capone's vault type of discovery. How did you find the mask? How do you know it's the real PGF mask?
 
Correa Neto said:
Oh, I wanna see Patty's vagina and anus.
I don't care if its NSFW. I must see them...

Now, even if PGF were such an explicit high-definition hardcore footage...
A hoaxer would have a hard time making an anus and a vagina?
Google for sex toys.
Please, think before writing...
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These choice items are for real people with real email to see.

Send or post yours.

Some genuine researchers, not just forum freaks, have been shown these
in person, (photos).

We will now hear 1000 very bad jokes from trivial people.
 
I doubt that these images show a real anus and a real vagina, even if Patty were a real bigfoot (and she is not).

Wanna know why?

Simple. Take your clothes. Now use a mirror to look at your butt. What sort of positions you need to make to be able to see your anus? And if you had a vagina, what would be these positions?

Can you find Patty making such poses at PGF?

No.

Of course, you can post these XXX pics and prove me wrong.
 
monstro said:
I saw an item maybe on page 224 or 225, re a claim by a woman from Happy Camp,CA,
that she went on an "expedition" with a well-known bigfooter, and that she says he hit her
many times with a flashlight. (He says she threw five Bigfoot and alien books - of his -into a creek)

Being a skeptic, I looked into this, to see if there was another side to the story, and
it seems that the flashlight was a cop's 3 cell metal flashlight, (ouch) BUT, that
the Amador Sheriff's dept could not find any marks nor bruises, as there ought to have been, so the claim was dropped. Seems the lady had also admitted to the Bisc*rdi
group that she was suicidal, had formerly been on crack and that she was half-alien.

Woo on woo on top of woo!

El Monstro
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I wonder if she ever met someone named George and taught him the secret of corndogs.
 
When skeptics point out the similarity of the P/G film (and Patterson's description) and the William Roe Bigfoot sighting, proponents will sometimes say that it's possible that the encounters were similar because they saw the same type of creature. But what if we could show that it was likely that the animal Mr. Roe had seen wasn't a Sasquatch?

I recently lucked into finding this picture of the severed hear of a Kodiak bear. Notice the similarities it shares to this sketch of the "Mica Mountain Sasquatch." If it had a shorter snout and noticeable ears, I'd say we'd have a perfect match.

Now, granted, there aren't any wild Kodiak bears in Canada (at least, none that I know of). But since the Kodiak bear is a subspecies of brown bear, I wonder if maybe one or more brown bears in British Columbia displayed some Kodiak-like facial features and sparked some Sasquatch sightings?

Roe noted that he originally thought it was a bear and that it had silver-tipped hair. Brown bears can also have that type of fur. As for the large breasts reported on the creature, I've read that black bears develop "noticeable breasts" when they're nursing. I wonder if a nursing brown bear does that as well?

On the other hand, Roe claimed it had humanlike fingernails, but that could've been a mistake on his part if he actually saw an odd-looking bear. Interestingly enough, I heard that John Green is the one who convinced Mr. Roe to sign a sworn affidavit...
 

Correa Neto & Drewbot - Yep. That is the mask. Molded by Wah Chang. Fitted onto Janos Prohaska's buddy from Corriganville, Buck Maffei.

The techniques used to build "Patty" can all be found among the work that Janos did with John Chambers and Wah. The suit used the same methods that Janos used in his bear suits. The hands and feet are attached to the arms and legs instead of put on later - which is just what Heironimus described. The head used typical gorilla suit methods of a padded interior with a mouthpiece that can be opened by the wearer opening his jaws. This was also described by Bob H.

There's no photo of the mask in the exact position we see Patty's clearest close up in, but the wide nostrils and the golf ball-shaped nose are exact matches. So are the lips and teeth. So are the cheeks and forehead. The philtrum under the nose and the angle of the mouth also match. So does the sharp squared jawline. The problem a smaller man (Buck was over 7' 5" or something like that) trying to look out of the eyeholes matches what Bob H. described. The use of Bob's fake eye would have worked just as he described to avoid the problem of seeing too much when Bigfoot looks back at the camera.

Trust me, this IS the very mask the guys used to quickly cannibalize a suit for Patterson to rent. The hair would be glued on just as Janos said. Not typical, but something they did to create a Caveman look sometimes. The latex skin is similar to the Gorn's and painted grey.

Hopefully in the coming year I'll have enough to make a little video and explain all this in detail. After that YOU will be able to make your own PG flick.:p
 
Correa Neto said:
I doubt that these images show a real anus and a real vagina, even if Patty were a real bigfoot (and she is not).

Wanna know why?

Simple. Take your clothes. Now use a mirror to look at your butt. What sort of positions you need to make to be able to see your anus? And if you had a vagina, what would be these positions?

Can you find Patty making such poses at PGF?

No.

Of course, you can post these XXX pics and prove me wrong.
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as I recall, they are frames 259 and 261.

Now YOU can go buy (for cash) as I did, a copy of the film and look it up.

MK Davis, also agrees. The vagina is 1/2 hidden by a vulva.

The anus is clearly visible.

Besides, I do not even know how to post an image here. Img -- something, something.... what is the code???

Tell me.

M

oh, once I do, you will of course claim I faked it. Natch,
 
Dfoot said:
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Correa Neto & Drewbot - Yep. That is the mask. Molded by Wah Chang. Fitted onto Janos Prohaska's buddy from Corriganville, Buck Maffei.

The techniques used to build "Patty" can all be found among the work that Janos did with John Chambers and Wah. The suit used the same methods that Janos used in his bear suits. The hands and feet are attached to the arms and legs instead of put on later - which is just what Heironimus described. The head used typical gorilla suit methods of a padded interior with a mouthpiece that can be opened by the wearer opening his jaws. This was also described by Bob H.

There's no photo of the mask in the exact position we see Patty's clearest close up in, but the wide nostrils and the golf ball-shaped nose are exact matches. So are the lips and teeth. So are the cheeks and forehead. The philtrum under the nose and the angle of the mouth also match. So does the sharp squared jawline. The problem a smaller man (Buck was over 7' 5" or something like that) trying to look out of the eyeholes matches what Bob H. described. The use of Bob's fake eye would have worked just as he described to avoid the problem of seeing too much when Bigfoot looks back at the camera.

Trust me, this IS the very mask the guys used to quickly cannibalize a suit for Patterson to rent. The hair would be glued on just as Janos said. Not typical, but something they did to create a Caveman look sometimes. The latex skin is similar to the Gorn's and painted grey.

Hopefully in the coming year I'll have enough to make a little video and explain all this in detail. After that YOU will be able to make your own PG flick.:p
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No= in frame 370, the mouth is open, with teeth showing, as is frame 371, and 372, with a slender jaw, making it not giganto.

The face is never the same for longer than ten frames.

You are now shot down in flames. You do not own a real 16mm copy, and this does NOT mean video.

M
 
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Amazing to me, but many kids today do not understand what "film" really is.
They think EVERYTHING is on video, and digital.

(shakes head...)
 
kitakaze said:
It was page 218. Here's a link:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3126215#post3126215

I'm guessing the presence of Beckjord's alcoholic, suicidal, drunk-driving girlfriend was exasperating the dysfunctional fanatic get-together.

Anyone who allows someone to drive drunk unobstructed might as well just pass them a loaded gun to dick around with while they're at it. With any luck the criminally stupid will shoot themselves in the ass before they can get the car started.
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Was not there, of course, but according to reports on another forum,

the man did not know the other driver in the other car was drinking.

Now if you KNOW of the drinking, that is another deal... always a no-no.

DUI is not cool. Killing other drivers is not cool.

m
 
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http://www.beckjord.com/bigfoot/pgfilmframesinseries/pgf61ed.jpg

61- Rt ft is raised with toes showing. Rt hand with long fingers is also see in fr 72,307, 336, and 339. Important to note that the
black triangle seen in most frames, here is NOT high on the shoulders as it is in most frames, and there is a short-haired zone between it's apex and the rear of the mother's head. This leads us to speculate that the black triangle is a head of a child, the same one that is riding piggyback and is not part of the mother's hair. Important item- anus is visile and the hint of female genitalia.
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monstro said:
as I recall, they are frames 259 and 261.

Now YOU can go buy (for cash) as I did, a copy of the film and look it up.

MK Davis, also agrees. The vagina is 1/2 hidden by a vulva.

The anus is clearly visible.

Besides, I do not even know how to post an image here. Img -- something, something.... what is the code???

Tell me.

M

oh, once I do, you will of course claim I faked it. Natch,
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Ah, three textbook footer pieces de resistant!

First tease the audience "I have something amzing to show". This is followed by an appeal for cash. And at last but not least the lame "I will not show you because you will not believe it" appeal...

Oh, I nearly forgot! An "I can't use a computer very well" appeal...

BTW, already tried to repeat the pose from those frames -or any PGF frame- naked in front of a mirror and see if your... body cavities... can be seen?

Can they?

No.

Another piece of footer logic that crumbles even if one assumes the basic premisse of the claim (bigfeet -PGF's bigfoot, in the case- are real) is correct.

Bigfoot investigators: Do you want to be taken seriously? Then start getting rid of crappy stuff like this.
 
Dfoot, nice to see you again. Skeptics and believers alike can learn from your posts. Have you seen the Bob Heironimus/Phil Morris recreation of the film? What did you think?
 
monstro said:
Welllllllll, Bigfoot, being a weirdo, woo, paranormal thing, has no obligation to please
me, nor you. But there is a still from a video by Mary Green, at www(dot)network54(dot)com/forum/161117

but, you won;t like it... looks like a hippie with goatee and glasses and mohawk.

Sigh,

El Monstro,
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Hmmm, that board has alot of postings by EB and all the replies are by EB. Did he lose his last friend after Happy Camp Wrestlemania?
 
Anyone who claims that an anus or vagina are visible on those frames really needs to get their eyes checked.

A fuzzy blob - yes. Specific orifices? - Certainly not.
 
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