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Bigfoot - The Patterson-Gimlin Film

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Strange, cast evidence is the second most important bit of evidence, certainly Meldrum is big on casts for his evidence.
 
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I saw an item maybe on page 224 or 225, re a claim by a woman from Happy Camp,CA,
that she went on an "expedition" with a well-known bigfooter, and that she says he hit her
many times with a flashlight. (He says she threw five Bigfoot and alien books - of his -into a creek)

Being a skeptic, I looked into this, to see if there was another side to the story, and
it seems that the flashlight was a cop's 3 cell metal flashlight, (ouch) BUT, that
the Amador Sheriff's dept could not find any marks nor bruises, as there ought to have been, so the claim was dropped. Seems the lady had also admitted to the Bisc*rdi
group that she was suicidal, had formerly been on crack and that she was half-alien.

Woo on woo on top of woo!

El Monstro
 
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Drewbot said:
If anyone wants to hire these guys to recreate the PGF costume, they said they would quote it, but they need a budget.

I asked; 'would you be able to reproduce the bigfoot costume in the PGF film?'

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Look folks, all this petty complaining back and forth about little tidbits on the PG Film (227 pages!!!) is useless when there are things found in the film that
just cannot be made by a faker and are just too difficult and
far out to even bother with, such as an anus and a vagina - as found by
investigator M.K. Davis and some others. I've seen these and they are beyond
fakery by two broke cowboys. So pack it in, the film is genuine.

El Monstro
 
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kitakaze said:
DWA is some guy at cryptomundo…:

"The Legend of the Omnipotent Hoaxer (LOTOH) is my favorite skeptical dodge… Bossburg? REALLY clever one there, Bossburg. Making it look like a cripple? Sheer genius."
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I must say, Bossburg is really the wrong case on which to build this "Omnipotent Hoaxer" thesis. All of the key Bossburg evidence actually did come from a known Bigfoot hoaxer—a hoaxer so far from omnipotent that he was not only caught red-handed, but literally exposed by school children. Moreover, virtually every big name in Bigfoot research came out of the debacle looking like an idiot (save Byrne, and to some extent Dahinden).

If I were a serious sasquatch proponent, this would be the one case I'd most wish would just go away.
 
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... Woo on woo on top of woo!

El Monstro
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Hey monstro, interesting anecdote. The whole thing was very disturbing and bizarre and both of them are obviously very troubled individuals with some serious personal issues, wouldn't you say?

Here's a collection of some things that self-professed paranormal bigfoot pioneer Neal Burgstahler has shared with us about Beckjord. Burgstahler seems to believe that Beckjord pales in comparison to his own experience.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1191088
 
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monstro said:
I saw an item maybe on page 224 or 225, re a claim by a woman from Happy Camp,CA,
that she went on an "expedition" with a well-known bigfooter, and that she says he hit her
many times with a flashlight. (He says she threw five Bigfoot and alien books - of his -into a creek)
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It was page 218. Here's a link:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3126215#post3126215

I'm guessing the presence of Beckjord's alcoholic, suicidal, drunk-driving girlfriend was exasperating the dysfunctional fanatic get-together.

Anyone who allows someone to drive drunk unobstructed might as well just pass them a loaded gun to dick around with while they're at it. With any luck the criminally stupid will shoot themselves in the ass before they can get the car started.
 
kitakaze said:
Hey monstro, interesting anecdote. The whole thing was very disturbing and bizarre and both of them are obviously very troubled individuals with some serious personal issues, wouldn't you say?

Here's a collection of some things that self-professed paranormal bigfoot pioneer Neal Burgstahler has shared with us about Beckjord. Burgstahler seems to believe that Beckjord pales in comparison to his own experience.




No. I have read the expedition was designed to test the effect of
psychotic persons on attracting Bigfoot. Basically, the "keeper" made an error
in not having enough orderlies or staffers on hand to control the situation.
When it got personally dangerous to stay, the "keeper" had to leave
and let authorities take over. No wounds, marks or bruises were found
on the subject. (Subject has a history of mental problems and trouble with police) Were there results? The organizer's site reports
three creatures turned up in film stills on the two follow up trips in Oct.

Any group trying this needs to bring the main therapist along. If this is not done, there is a chance for it all to backfire. It done right, it could work.

El Monstro
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monstro said:
Basically, the "keeper" made an error
in not having enough orderlies or staffers on hand to control the situation.
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Not enough? Who was the 'keeper'? The bi-polar, alcoholic, suicidal, drunk-driving, elderly women or her whack-job, delusional, 70's paranormal goof, washout boyfriend?
 
monstro said:
Look folks, all this petty complaining back and forth about little tidbits on the PG Film (227 pages!!!) is useless when there are things found in the film that
just cannot be made by a faker and are just too difficult and
far out to even bother with, such as an anus and a vagina - as found by
investigator M.K. Davis and some others. I've seen these and they are beyond
fakery by two broke cowboys. So pack it in, the film is genuine.

El Monstro
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Why no more films of Bluff Creek bigfoot after Patterson left? Why no more casts of Patty after Patterson left Bluff Creek? Did Patty get into her UFO and take off?
 
Welllllllll, Bigfoot, being a weirdo, woo, paranormal thing, has no obligation to please
me, nor you. But there is a still from a video by Mary Green, at www(dot)network54(dot)com/forum/161117

but, you won;t like it... looks like a hippie with goatee and glasses and mohawk.

Sigh,

El Monstro,
 
The Beckjord has been banned in more places than the JREF, he is so far out there, that the BFF has outlawed even talking about him. One mention of The Beckjord will get you 10 days suspension if I remember correctly.
 
Has anyone assembled a family tree of Bigfoot beliefs? I would say "Whacked out Bigfoot beliefs" but that would be redundant

Is Beckjord at the top? and do his branches mingle or is there a bitter rivalry?

Where does Burgstahler fit in?
 
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monstro said:
Look folks, all this petty complaining back and forth about little tidbits on the PG Film (227 pages!!!) is useless when there are things found in the film that
just cannot be made by a faker and are just too difficult and
far out to even bother with, such as an anus and a vagina - as found by
investigator M.K. Davis and some others. I've seen these and they are beyond
fakery by two broke cowboys. So pack it in, the film is genuine.

El Monstro
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Oh, I wanna see Patty's vagina and anus.
I don't care if its NSFW. I must see them...

Now, even if PGF were such an explicit high-definition hardcore footage...
A hoaxer would have a hard time making an anus and a vagina?
Google for sex toys.
Please, think before writing...
 
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