Truthers: Explain, once and for all, who exactly "THEY" are

[MIKILLINI]

RE: the OP, as this thread (like usual JREF fare) has gone of the rails.

Short answer, a shadow Government...the Secret State.

Elements within our Government w/ ties to Zionists. Would be my guesses.

The Secret State Government and the Not So Secret Government Elements with ties to Zionists...Hmmmm. No body seems to know who they are, although their existence is repeatedly claimed. Do they have a name, HH?
How do you know a secret government exists?
Do you have some relevant proof?

 

[Gravy]

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[RedIbis]

C. Gravy always finds some way to answer our unanswered questions.

Not if he puts you on ignore. Ironically, he's selectively omniscient.

 

[HereticHulk]

The Secret State Government and the Not So Secret Government Elements with ties to Zionists...Hmmmm. No body seems to know who they are, although their existence is repeatedly claimed. Do they have a name, HH?
How do you know a secret government exists?
Do you have some relevant proof?

What does SECRET mean to you?

Think in terms of a SECRET SANTA and you should figure it out.

 

[HereticHulk]

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thanks, done!

 

[MIKILLINI]

What does SECRET mean to you?

Think in terms of a SECRET SANTA and you should figure it out.

Secret to Me is area 51, or dreamland as it's called. But it exists; Know what I mean?

 

[HereticHulk]

Secret to Me is area 51, or dreamland as it's called. But it exists; Know what I mean?

No, not exactly.

If you deny that there is such a thing as a shadow government or 'deep state' as opposed to a 'public state', then you are very ignorant or in severe denial.

 

[Corsair 115]

If you deny that there is such a thing as a shadow government or 'deep state' as opposed to a 'public state', then you are very ignorant or in severe denial.

Now all you have to do is prove the existence of this shadow government for everyone to see.

Also, does this shadow government only operate in the U.S., or do other countries have the same thing? Is there a secret shadow government in France? Spain? Japan? Brazil? Canada?

 

[Brainache]

What does SECRET mean to you?

Think in terms of a SECRET SANTA and you should figure it out.

Well they aren't doing much of a job at being secret if blokes like you and Alex Jones can see what they're up to. I mean, what's the point of going to all the trouble of setting up a nice little covert Zionist enclave within the USG if all they do all day long is go around organising false flag attacks which everybody in the Troofersphere will see through straight away?

And now they are hiring blueberry tart making Tour Guides to spearhead their internet disinfo operations? Wow, that is some evil cabal we got ourselves...

 

[HereticHulk]

Now all you have to do is prove the existence of this shadow government for everyone to see.

Also, does this shadow government only operate in the U.S., or do other countries have the same thing? Is there a secret shadow government in France? Spain? Japan? Brazil? Canada?

Prove the existence of Santa Clause! ...or a all seeing all knowing god fihure while your at it.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=SCO20050729&articleId=759


http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=9c2d6a5e75201d7e3936ddc65cdd56a9

 

[HereticHulk]

Well they aren't doing much of a job at being secret if blokes like you and Alex Jones can see what they're up to. I mean, what's the point of going to all the trouble of setting up a nice little covert Zionist enclave within the USG if all they do all day long is go around organising false flag attacks which everybody in the Troofersphere will see through straight away?

And now they are hiring blueberry tart making Tour Guides to spearhead their internet disinfo operations? Wow, that is some evil cabal we got ourselves...

Plausible deniability.

AJ= disinfo. You can quit with the red herrings.

 

[TheRedWorm]

Who isn't disinfo?

And while your at it: Who is in the secret government? How do they finance their operations? What are their operations? Do they report to anyone, and if so, who? Do they have a base of operations? Do they operate in the USA alone, or in other countries as well?

 

[Gravy]

Plausible deniability.

Can you point us to the plausible part?

AJ= disinfo. You can quit with the red herrings.

Do you mean deliberate disinfo, as in working for the enemy, or just that Jones gets it wrong?

If everything is so secret, how do you determine the accuracy of the information you read about this NWO stuff?

 

[Brainache]

Plausible deniability.

AJ= disinfo. You can quit with the red herrings.

So "plausible deniability" means that if something happens and nothing exists to tie this secret government to the event, they must be the culprits?

So now Alex Jones is part of the conspiracy? Did this just happen recently, or has he been disinfo all along?
ETA: So does that mean that Loose Change: Final Cut is disinfo? Didn't AJ fund that? He also endorses Ron Paul doesn't he? More disinfo I assume.

 

[eeyore1954]

This is Them but who are they.

 

[ktesibios]

Funny, whenever troofers start in about "disinfo agents" and "shadow governments", run, of course, by that all-purpose Evil Other^TM, the Zionists, I start out being reminded of this:

Are there 205 of them, Hulk?

But on closer inspection, they turn out to be much, much more like this:

 

[MIKILLINI]

No, not exactly.

If you deny that there is such a thing as a shadow government or 'deep state' as opposed to a 'public state', then you are very ignorant or in severe denial.

Then I suggest you prove to Me what kind of denial I'm in by your revelation of the existence of this "shadow/secret" government.
You believe it exists...so show your proof of what causes you to believe it does.

 

[JMarshall]

I am they... Er, well one of they... Well, best I can tell I am one of they... I mean the CTists believe it's the government, and since I have dedicated most of my adult life to service to the government, I guess that makes me one of they... Plus I come from a long line of active Free Masons, so woo hoo one more point for me! Bring on the NWO, I know I'll have a good job!

 

[Sabrina]

Hey, that means I get two points too!

I'm in the military, and I'm currently working for the government as a civilian as well.

That's two points, right?

 

[PhantomWolf]

Prove the existence of Santa Clause! ...or a all seeing all knowing god fihure while your at it.

There we go. Shadow Goverment = Santa Claus.

I'd say that = case closed.