Bigfoot: The Invisible Variety

[DrewD]

Gerwick Marine Engineering
Scordellis Engineering
Clough Engineering
Wilson Engineering
T.Y. Lin Engineering
Penzien Engineering

All world renown in their fields.

So now what are you going to do with that? Claim that they don't exist? How about another round of "prove its"?

I started to look these up but realized that they mainly consist of company names. How about the names of the engineers and/or professors that work for these companies that back your claims? Afraid to provide something verifiable are we?

 

[historian]

I started to look these up but realized that they mainly consist of company names. How about the names of the engineers and/or professors that work for these companies that back your claims? Afraid to provide something verifiable are we?

SWOA!

You got the person's names. Do your own leg work. Get back to us when you have some more mindless accusations.

 

[Locknar]

Wow! What are the odds of Locknar not being able to figure this one out? How about 100% chance of him not having a clue, once again.

People who put their evidence out there, are ALSO subject to scorn and ridicule. Just look at Locknar's posts against Creekfreak. Yet he cannot recall those posts from only a few days ago. Could Locknar have short term memory problems due to the overuse of pharmaceuticals? The person that I know who has seen hundreds of them, does have photographic evidence. I know others who have seen them a whole lot less, and they also have photographic evidence. In addition to not being interested in being subject to the "Locknar Treatment", they have other reasons for not putting their evidence out there. For one, it becomes worthless if they just post it on the internet. Another is they may get fired. A third is the NSA may then go after them. Yet Locknar, somehow, someway, just cannot figure this out by himself. This is just so unbelievable that he keeps coming back with comments like that. Over and over and over again. Truth is stranger than fiction. Hollywood ought to do a movie about Locknar, entitled "The Man Who Can't Remember How To Tie His Own Shoelaces".

Ah yes, personal attack and insult; always the hallmark last resort of the woo'er.

Anyway....

Earlier you claimed that you knew "people" that have seen "Bigfoot" 100's of times; now it's a "person", as in singular - which is it?

Why would posting their pictures, or other evidence, make it worthless? Why would they get fired, for making the find of the century?

As to the NSA "agents", you seem to be to thwart them quite easily as they have yet to get to/eliminate any of your so called proof. Why not help this person, that you know?

How is your search for say a official County/State site for that ordinance comming...or say other documentation wrt your claims about Carter and/or Hawking? I'm guessing you are not having any luck...since these events only happened in your fantasy.

 

[Locknar]

Gerwick Marine Engineering
Scordellis Engineering
Clough Engineering
Wilson Engineering
T.Y. Lin Engineering
Penzien Engineering

All world renown in their fields.

So now what are you going to do with that? Claim that they don't exist? How about another round of "prove its"?

I don't know if "they" exist or not, since you didn't provid full names. Are how about something like say....oh, I dunno.....a first AND last name?

 

[bruto]

SWOA!

You got the person's names. Do your own leg work. Get back to us when you have some more mindless accusations.

Why should others do your leg work? The extraordinary claims are yours: it's your job to back them up. You know perfectly well that you will deny and discount anything anybody finds out anyway, claiming that some secret agency has changed the record, or that someone is forced to lie for security. It's your job to find something that corroborates your story. Your record so far is zero.

 

[DrewD]

SWOA!

You got the person's names. Do your own leg work. Get back to us when you have some more mindless accusations.

Gerwick Marine Engineering
Ben C. Gerwick, Inc. is an internationally known civil/structural consulting firm based in San Francisco, specializing in the design and construction of marine foundations, bridge foundations and other major marine structures for more than 80 years, first as a heavy construction company, and as consulting engineers since 1971.
http://www.gerwick.com/

How about a name for this reference?

Scordellis Engineering
Did a google search on this and came up with 53 results. Could not find anything relevent. Provide something that can be verified, troll.

Clough Engineering
Clough Engineering is an Australian based engineering, construction and asset support contractor providing full project life cycle solutions primarily to the oil and gas industry
www.clough.com.au/

How about a name for this reference?

Wilson Engineering
Wilson Engineering is a Toronto, Canada based design engineering firm specializing in the design and development of innovative new products for the consumer, commercial and medical appliance markets.
www.wilsonengineering.com/

or

Wilson Engineering, LLC is a civil engineering and land surveying firm established in 1967. We provide these consulting services to clients throughout Canada.
http://www.mikewilsoneng.com/

Is your expert reference Mike Wilson?

T.Y. Lin Engineering
Founded in San Francisco more than 50 years ago, T.Y. Lin International (TYLI) has established itself as an internationally recognized civil and structural engineering firm specializing in the planning, design, and construction engineering/inspection of transportation infrastructure.
http://www.tylin.com/

How about a name for this reference?

Penzien Engineering
Joseph Penzien - Penzien is the Board of Directors Chair for International Civil Engineering Consultants, Inc. He is Professor Emeritus of Structural Engineering at the University of CA, Berkeley where he served 35 years in the Department of Civil Engineering specializing in the areas of dynamics of structures and earthquake engineering. He was the founding Director of the University's Earthquake Engineering Research Center (EERC) having responsibility for its research and laboratory development programs.
http://www.ccst.us/ccstinfo/fellows/bios/penzien.php

Is this your reference? If not provide a name for your reference.

 

[Creekfreak]

I dont need a ticket to the hot spots in the county I live in it .
I produce real evidence you can touch not some fantasy about them being invisable .
No names no proof to back you up sorry .

 

[Locknar]

You got the person's names. Do your own leg work. Get back to us when you have some more mindless accusations.

I take this to mean you saying "I can't provide names because I've made it all up".

 

[DrewD]

I take this to mean you saying "I can't provide names because I've made it all up".

That is how I took it. I don't want him to get out of it that easy. I will look up anything that he provides in order to make him look even sillier, if that is possible. He has to respond if someone calls him on his BS. It is a compulsion of a sort. It is just a matter of time before he completly buries himself in BS.... I know he has already done this but I fell like I just need that cherry to top the thread off.

 

[DrewD]

DrewD - isn't that the wrong mythical creature?

You know, it's beginning to look as if most of us here are NSA agents, joining in the fun just to annoy Historian.

I'm not complaining, mind

I'm not an NSA agent! Wait... does that make me look like an NSA agent? Anyway, I was thinking that Bigfeet are really Santa Claus. That is how all the presents get delivered in one night. Think about it!

 

[AtomicMysteryMonster]

Let's first analyze the ghillie suit. It catches on every twig, thorn, branch and leaf in the forest. So one must have a wide open area to walk through AND have a flashlight to find that wide open area. So ghillie suits with no flashlight at night in the forest, are completely absurd!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is it with Bigfoot proponents and flashlights? This reminds me of a segment of a 14 part Youtube upload called "A Bigfoot Shooting," where a Bigfoot researcher tries to convince a woman that the clothed man she saw in the woods at night was actually a Bigfoot since he didn't have a flashlight. Hilariously, Art Bell calls him out on the sheer ridiculousness of that "logic."

But it gets even better! Lets analyze just a human in the forest at night with no flashlight, and he doesn't get to walk or run on any trails. The forest is full of trees, brush and thorns. A man trying to move fast through a forest at night with no flashlight, will likely have both eyes poked out, clothes torn and scratches everywhere, plus either poison oak or poison ivy, and have that bear take a chunk out of his hind end.

Well, some people wear visors with their ghillie suit, but the eye issue is a moot point. What the Burghermeister fails to realize is that a person in a ghillie suit doesn't have to run far to get out of someone's sight. All they'd have to do is lower themselves to the ground and let the suit's camouflaging ability take over take over. Ta-da! A "vanishing Bigfoot!"

And if they're wearing night vision goggles, we can add "glowing eyes" to the so-called Bigfoot sighting report.

 

[TjW]

I have no idea of historian's preferences, but given a little moonlight, I far prefer moving through forest at night without a flashlight. Waiting for your night vision to come back after some idiot turns on a light is a PITA.

 

[historian]

What is it with Bigfoot proponents and flashlights? This reminds me of a segment of a 14 part Youtube upload called "A Bigfoot Shooting," where a Bigfoot researcher tries to convince a woman that the clothed man she saw in the woods at night was actually a Bigfoot since he didn't have a flashlight. Hilariously, Art Bell calls him out on the sheer ridiculousness of that "logic."

Prove it! Flashlights are extremely important to moving through the woods at night, when not on a trail.

Well, some people wear visors with their ghillie suit, but the eye issue is a moot point. What the Burghermeister fails to realize is that a person in a ghillie suit doesn't have to run far to get out of someone's sight. All they'd have to do is lower themselves to the ground and let the suit's camouflaging ability take over take over. Ta-da! A "vanishing Bigfoot!"

But the quicky answer did not state that the ghillie suited person fell to the ground. So getting ones eyes poked out, it still on the table and a very important issue.

And if they're wearing night vision goggles, we can add "glowing eyes" to the so-called Bigfoot sighting report.

You have been watching too much TV. Night vision goggles do not glow on the front end. Some light comes out the back end. Only on TV, do night vision goggles have a glow on the front end. So time after time, you guys keep proving beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you have absolutely no field experience. Yet you are still here to argue that the Bigfoot do not exist. Absolutely amazing!

 

[historian]

Look another invisible Bigfoot












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[historian]

Name / Field of Expertise

Ben C. Gerwick / Marine Engineering
Alex Scordellis / Engineering
Ray Clough / Engineering
Edward Wilson / Engineering (Father of the finite element)
T.Y. Lin / Engineering
Joe Penzien / Engineering

 

[AtomicMysteryMonster]

Prove it!

You want me to prove that a woman who saw a man in a blue shirt (Or was it pants? It's been awhile since I listened to "A Bigfoot Shooting") didn't see a Bigfoot? Are you serious?

Flashlights are extremely important to moving through the woods at night, when not on a trail.

Yes, flashlights are handy to have when you're in the woods at night, but it's not like there aren't other sources of light, like moonlight. You also seem to be forgetting that peoples' eyes can adjust to being in the darkness. It's not as good as a light, but it's helpful.

For all you know, the hypothetical ghillie suit person actually does have a flashlight, but was not using it at the time of the encounter (be it to save battery life, to remain unseen by others, etc.).

But the quicky answer did not state that the ghillie suited person fell to the ground.

Who said anything about falling? I was talking about a person deliberately lowering themselves onto the ground. Youtube is filled with videos of people in ghillie suits doing this.

Night vision goggles do not glow on the front end.

Oh, really?

Some light comes out the back end. Only on TV, do night vision goggles have a glow on the front end.

You seem to be talking about the eyepieces themselves. I was referring to the fact that night vision goggles need a light source in order to work, so many night vision goggles come with one or more light sources attached to the front. It is true that some models use light sources that are almost invisible to the human eye, but this depends on the model and manufacturer. You're actually hurting your own argument by insisting on glowless night vision goggles. After all, that'd give the person in the ghillie suit a way to see in the dark and protect their eyes at the same time!

 

[bruto]

Name / Field of Expertise

Ben C. Gerwick / Marine Engineering
Alex Scordellis / Engineering
Ray Clough / Engineering
Edward Wilson / Engineering (Father of the finite element)
T.Y. Lin / Engineering
Joe Penzien / Engineering

Scratch Lin off your list, unless you're suggesting he published something that backs you up. He's dead.

 

[LTC8K6]

Prove it! Flashlights are extremely important to moving through the woods at night, when not on a trail.

I moved through the woods at night a lot while in the US Army and I never used a flashlight. On or off trails. Flashlights attract bullets. I don't recall having any particular problem once my eyes adjusted to the light level.

I'm sure my dog and bigfoot can see better in the dark than I can, but I can certainly see well enough to travel in the woods at night without a flashlight.

Flashlights also attract every insect in a several mile radius right to you.

 

[YouBelieveWHAT?]

I'm not an NSA agent! Wait... does that make me look like an NSA agent? Anyway, I was thinking that Bigfeet are really Santa Claus. That is how all the presents get delivered in one night. Think about it!

C'mon - if you are an NSA agent, that's what you're bound to say It's OK to come clean, as long as it's only in this thread, of course.

I think your Santa theory has promise.

After all, all we really "know" about him, is that he has elves helping him to make toys, and that he - apparently on his own - visits millions of kids in one night handing out toys.

Well - for a start you can't trust elves. JUst remember that after Elrond got on the boat and disappeared into the sunset, he must have already had a plan; sure enough, later he turns up as the bad guy in the Matrix. Elves? You just can't trust 'em at all

But billions of invisible Bigfeet distributing toys - yup, it all makes sense now.

More than the rest of this thread at least

YBW

 

[YouBelieveWHAT?]

Oh, and the NSA is the US government's cryptologic organization. It is responsible for the collection and analysis of foreign communications. It is also responsible for protecting U.S. government communications and information systems from similar agencies elsewhere. Nothing in the NSA mandate has anything to do with what goes on at LNLL and the DOE - except as it pertains to the flow of protected information.

But, madurobob, as any of the NSA agents in this thread could tell you, the NSA obviously has complete control over Bigfoot research

However, if we did, we'd have to kill you, of course

YBW