Bigfoot: The Invisible Variety

[historian]

Neal, this is your post from the bigfoot newbie questions thread
which I will not respond to there so as to not contribute to a derail.

I asked you before if these interdimensional being speak with you from time to time, either conventionally or telepathically. Do they?

Also, since I am a bigfoot researcher with far more experience than you and my work has been respected and acknowledged by far more people than you, I don't mind telling you that fruit on the table/interdimensional peoples correlation is guano.

Bigfoot does not either conventionally or telepathically speak to me in words, only in their actions. They can transmit quite a bit, just by not ripping my head off when they are standing 3 feet away, but in another dimension. Which happens often. A bigfoot researcher that say only covers the flesh & blood aspects of the Bigfoot, is roughly equivalent to graduating from kindergarten, in my opinion. There are 12 more years after that, and then there is college, if you are good enough. I don't believe that you clarified your area of research, but it does not appear to have anything to do with the higher dimensions or with anything paranormal. Quano? I believe that those little chirping interdimensional people call it food.

I was actually bumped into by one when it was trying to gain access to my sleeping bag, which was inside of a zipped up tent. So how did a little interdimensional person get inside my tent and then appear to feel as solid as I? Easy! That's what interdimensional people do, all the time.

 

[kitakaze]

edited to remove double post.

 

[kitakaze]

Bigfoot does not either conventionally or telepathically speak to me in words, only in their actions.

But they do understand English, yes? Funny that they will apparantly speak to so many others.

They can transmit quite a bit, just by not ripping my head off when they are standing 3 feet away, but in another dimension. Which happens often.

Baseless claims. Squawk talk by a amateur, green, wannabe bigfoot somebody.

A bigfoot researcher that say only covers the flesh & blood aspects of the Bigfoot, is roughly equivalent to graduating from kindergarten, in my opinion. There are 12 more years after that, and then there is college, if you are good enough. I don't believe that you clarified your area of research, but it does not appear to have anything to do with the higher dimensions or with anything paranormal. Quano? I believe that those little chirping interdimensional people call it food.

You know almost nothing of paranormal bigfoot. That which you do know has been swiped and ponyed from those whose names are actually known. You have a little something on your chin, looks to be egg. Strap your bib back on and back to the kiddy table with you, rookie.

I was actually bumped into by one when it was trying to gain access to my sleeping bag, which was inside of a zipped up tent. So how did a little interdimensional person get inside my tent and then appear to feel as solid as I? Easy! That's what interdimensional people do, all the time.

More baseless claim wannabe bigfoot somebody guano. Spare the goofy anecdotes, please. That's right, anecdote.

 

[Locknar]

This it?

http://www.bigfootinfo.org/articles/article.php?id=6

RayG

That would not be an official State/County site....

 

[bruto]

Historian, my barn is full of guano. I netted the bats out of my attic, and ever since, they've taken up residence in the barn. How can I hire some of those cute little interdimensional guano-eaters to come clean up? Next time you meet them maybe you can give them a hint, you know, greener pastures and whatnot? Just tell them to fly due east from you. When you hit Whitehall, turn right. Big red barn. Lots and lots of bats. Can't miss it.

 

[kitakaze]

Guano or fruit from Granny's table- which do The Unseen Ones prefer?

 

[historian]

Historian, my barn is full of guano. I netted the bats out of my attic, and ever since, they've taken up residence in the barn. How can I hire some of those cute little interdimensional guano-eaters to come clean up? Next time you meet them maybe you can give them a hint, you know, greener pastures and whatnot? Just tell them to fly due east from you. When you hit Whitehall, turn right. Big red barn. Lots and lots of bats. Can't miss it.

Forget the guano. Fresh fruit is what they are after. I was merely replying to KITAKAZE/TUBE's insinuation.

Although TUBE claims to be a bigshot bigfoot researcher, he announced to everyone that he was dropping out of bigfoot research (aka ex-bigfoot researcher), quite some time ago. He did this just after he thought that he had cast doubt on all casts showing dermal ridges. His research specimens were cast by him on artificilly smooth surfaces that don't leave tracks. In reality, no one would be going for a track cast on something as smooth as say a kitchen table, but he didn't let that stop his logical thinking from then stating that false dermal ridges could then occur on a soft and rough natural surface such as fine silt.

After a brief hiatus, he then resurfaced making arguments for the opposite camp, the skeptics. It appeared that he really believes that his own research was valid. TUBE had also made a vicious attack against myself in the AIBR chat room. That is how I recognize the style.

In my opinion, Tube's research quality is not unlike M.K. Davis research where he claims that a tight radius curved stick (R=6 inches) was dropped by Patty, in the exact same instant that the curved rear contour of a bent left leg, carved out the outside radius of that same curved stick. Tight radius curved sticks would be difficult to find in nature. Trees generally grow branches that have almost straight branches with a downward curve radius of perhaps 5 feet or more. The chances of a tight radius curved stick being caught in the position postulated, have got to be infinitesimally small. Similar to the chances of TUBE's dermal ridge research being valid, for high relief dermal ridges. Yet apparently, he still considers himself as an expert.

 

[kitakaze]

Forget the guano. Fresh fruit is what they are after. I was merely replying to KITAKAZE/TUBE's insinuation.

The Burg is having a bad day, he thinks I'm tube.

Sorry, Neal. I'm not that other guy you worship. No, my paranormal research leaves your tinfoil kinderplay in the dust. Keep trying, though.

 

[historian]

The Burg is having a bad day, he thinks I'm tube.

Sorry, Neal. I'm not that other guy you worship. No, my paranormal research leaves your tinfoil kinderplay in the dust. Keep trying, though.

There are no well known paranormal researchers of your claimed expertise, that have attained any level of reputation. So we have a bit of a, shall we say, contradiction, to put it politely. And certainly none in Japan.

 

[bruto]

There are no well known paranormal researchers of your claimed expertise, that have attained any level of reputation. So we have a bit of a, shall we say, contradiction, to put it politely. And certainly none in Japan.

Kitakaze never claimed to be a paranormal researcher. Anyway, he still isn't Tube no matter what his qualifications or disqualifications may be.

e.t.a. I'm sorry to hear that your paranormal critters do not eat guano. We have plenty of apples, too, but have not noticed that anything else is keeping the deer from their share. Can we find nothing with an appetite for guano other than paranormal researchers themselves? I think their upkeep would be a poor tradeoff.

 

[historian]

Kitakaze never claimed to be a paranormal researcher. Anyway, he still isn't Tube no matter what his qualifications or disqualifications may be.

e.t.a. I'm sorry to hear that your paranormal critters do not eat guano. We have plenty of apples, too, but have not noticed that anything else is keeping the deer from their share. Can we find nothing with an appetite for guano other than paranormal researchers themselves? I think their upkeep would be a poor tradeoff.

Get a dog. They'll eat anything, especially animal droppings. They think that its candy from heaven. Better than breath mints. They will be so grateful that they will likely catch you when you least suspect it, and plant a couple of doggy kisses on your formerly sanitized cheek.

 

[bruto]

Get a dog. They'll eat anything, especially animal droppings. They think that its candy from heaven. Better than breath mints. They will be so grateful that they will likely catch you when you least suspect it, and plant a couple of doggy kisses on your formerly sanitized cheek.

Good thought - I've seen dogs eat cat droppings, but never bat droppings; but they're probably as good a bet as anything. I think I might pass, though, since I don't really want a dog for anything else, and besides, I'd end up having to clean up after the dog, which seems a poor bargain.

 

[catbasket]

Good thought - I've seen dogs eat cat droppings, but never bat droppings...

Hint - dogs can't spell. They'll never know the difference.

 

[Apology]

Good thought - I've seen dogs eat cat droppings, but never bat droppings; but they're probably as good a bet as anything. I think I might pass, though, since I don't really want a dog for anything else, and besides, I'd end up having to clean up after the dog, which seems a poor bargain.

Do cats eat bats? Do bats eat cats?

Curiouser and curiouser.

 

[YouBelieveWHAT?]

Well, I've been away for 4 days, but this thread continues to entertain....

Now Historian is also a legal expert - and an expert on dogs

H - is there anything you can't do?

 

[bruto]

Do cats eat bats? Do bats eat cats?

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Curiouser and curiouser.

Well, although according to Wallace Stevens, "Frogs eat Butterflies. Snakes Eat Frogs. Hogs eat Snakes. Men eat Hogs," I've never seen a bat eat a cat or a cat eat a bat, or a man eat either. That middle part seems a little odd, considering how much effort some cats will go to to get a bird, and the fact that bats do have at least some kinship to mice, but although my barns are a gathering place for a variety of feral and non-feral cats from the surrounding neighborhood, they never seem to bother the bats. Of course access is an issue there, but neither do the legions of garter and corn snakes who live in the foundations. Bats smell pretty bad, and perhaps they are protected by the perpetual whiff of ammonia that seems to accompany them, or maybe they're just so leathery and bony that they make for a poor meal. When we were plagued by bats in the house, someone recommended that we find a nice big black snake, but herding snakes is even harder than herding cats, and the thought of a yard-long reptile turning up in one's bed or peeking out from under the washing machine seemed a little off-putting, no matter how harmless it is, so we passed on that too. Living with real critters is complicated enough. Who needs the paranormal ones?

 

[Correa Neto]

Guano... bats...

Cool! Reminds me of my spelunking days!

Been covered with guano, had bats slapped at my face and even crawling over me (yep, desmodus), spent countless nights hanging mistnets on caves to catch bats, not to mention the photo sections. Lovely and missed stuff!

Oh, no bigfeet. Closest thing - the Big Hairy, a tale used by a spelunking group to scare n00bies. How I know it was a tale? Well... *spooky theremin music* WooooOOOOOoooooOOOO

 

[madurobob]

ATTENTION!

ALL CONTRADICTING SKEPTICS ARE DEAD WRONG, IN REGARD TO THEIR INTERPRETATION THAT THE SKAMANIA COUNTY ORDINANCE AGAINST HARMING A BIGFOOT, ARE SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY, INVALID. SKAMANIA COUNTY ORDINANCES HAVE THE FULL FORCE OF THE LAW. READ IT AND WEEP. END OF STORY!

1.01.170 Constitutionality.

If any section, subsection, sentence, clause or phrase of the Skamania County code is for any reason held to be invalid or unconstitutional, such decision shall not affect the validity of the remaining portions of the code. The board declares that it would have passed this code, and each section, subsection, sentence, clause and phrase thereof, irrespective of the fact that any one or more sections, subsections, sentences, clauses, or phrases had been declared invalid or unconstitutional, and if for any reason, the Skamania County code should be declared invalid or unconstitutional, then the original ordinance or ordinances shall be in full force and effect. (Ord. 1979-07 § 17)

Great googly-moogly Histo, where in 1.01.170 does it make any mention of bigfoot or any other being?? This simply says that if one part of the code is found to be unconstitutional that the remainder of the code still remains in effect. Its a "don't throw the baby out with the bathwater" statement.

How in the world did you interpret this as related to bigfoot?? Did you really go to college at Berkely, or were you just hanging out there?

 

[historian]

Guano... bats...

Cool! Reminds me of my spelunking days!

Been covered with guano, had bats slapped at my face and even crawling over me (yep, desmodus), spent countless nights hanging mistnets on caves to catch bats, not to mention the photo sections. Lovely and missed stuff!

Oh, no bigfeet. Closest thing - the Big Hairy, a tale used by a spelunking group to scare n00bies. How I know it was a tale? Well... *spooky theremin music* WooooOOOOOoooooOOOO

I know of several stories, where spelunkers and recreationalists, have entered caves that had a bigfoot present. One in particular was a fairly tight cave, that river runners take their paying customers to see, on the Tuolumne in California. Apparently, one group of customers entered this cave without clearing it out first. And shortly after everyone got in and sat sound, they felt something very hairy brush by them on the way to the exit, in the pitch black cave. They have extraordinary night vision. Afterwards, they developed a new policy of stopping outside the entrance a short ways away, and making noise so that any tenants could safely vacate the cave.

 

[historian]

Great googly-moogly Histo, where in 1.01.170 does it make any mention of bigfoot or any other being?? This simply says that if one part of the code is found to be unconstitutional that the remainder of the code still remains in effect. Its a "don't throw the baby out with the bathwater" statement.

How in the world did you interpret this as related to bigfoot?? Did you really go to college at Berkely, or were you just hanging out there?

Dear Lost in the Ozone Again,
Go back a few pages and start reading. The existing 1984 revised ordinance (post #885) which is not word by word listed on the internet by Skamania County, is nevertheless law regardless of whether it was codiefied or not. Lochnar in post #887 found where it was listed in Skamania County Ordinances. Several claimed that since the ordinance was listed as "not codified", then it was not law. The code is for other things than listing the specific details of ordinances, apparently. This bigfoot ordinance that was originally written in 1969 and then revised in 1984, has been common knowledge amongst bigfooters in the west. It is written about in a number of publications. Even if I were to spend the time to visit the Skamania County courthouse and get a copy of the ordinance, have it scanned and put on the internet, any skeptic could then claim that I fabricated it myself. Using that skeptic type of reasoning, very little accepted knowledge can be proven, because the complaining skeptic would have to be present as the chain of evidence is developed to provide the proof to that individual skeptic. Which is impractical at best. After all, who is going to foot the bill for an endeavor such as this, especially when the skeptic has no authority whatsoever and his entire resume consists of owning both a computer and an internet connection. So some ascertations have to rely on the predominance of evidence, which is the Skamania Ordinance being referenced in their code and the corresponding Ordinance appearing at several locations on the internet. This story is resolved.