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Bigfoot - The Patterson-Gimlin Film

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William Parcher wrote:
This is not a bad start. But the size of the human head is up to the creator of the graphic. You can fiddle with the size and position of the human head and always leave room for the forehead slope.
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You're right......and you're wrong, William.

Of course a humanly-proportioned head can be drawn to fit inside Patty's head. That "in and of itself" doesn't mean anything.

The significant, meaningful thing is....can a humanly-proportioned head of the proper size in relation to the body be fitted into Patty's head??


It will be very difficult for you to make the case that Bob's head can't fit inside the Patty head. Even with this, you've shown that it fits.
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No...not really. I've shown what I think is the largest size humanly-proportioned head is, that will fit inside of Patty's cone-shaped head.

Now the question is...is that size head in the proper proportion to Patty's body???
 
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Bruto,

It certainly does seem to indicate that.


Sweaty,

Do you have any idea how many different styles of dogear helmets were made? (I didn't think so) After very little thought I’m inclined to believe that you cannot say modify. Do you wear off-the-rack?

This was my fav.




LT, WP,

I just found someone else who not only says there was one cable release but that there were several styles of cable releases, among other things. Could be the two models are very different.

I can’t stand Parcher not knowing and LT giving up, so I’ll take it upon myself to contact Kodak sometime in the near future. Bigfoot is really, really pissing me off now!



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Correct me if I'm wrong here...

but didn't Bob H. claim that the mask merely reminded him of an old-fashioned football helmet and not that it actually was one? I should also point out that the interiors of high-end masks can look similar to such helmets.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Sounds like after the fact rationalization of a mistaken belief in the Marx film to me.
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It wouldn't surprise me, especially when you factor in the ridiculous bids he put up for that guy who claimed to have a captured Bigfoot and a severed Bigfoot bodypart. Either that, or he was the victim of proponent peer pressure. "Come on, all the cool kids think it's real! You wanna be cool, right?"

Now that I think about it, this kinda reminds me of the "Snow walker" video incident. I've seen some apologists argue that Dr. Meldrum was pressured into giving an on-the-spot quote on the footage. You'd think that a scientist would've said that he'd need more time to properly analyze the footage before making any conclusions...
 
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Mobile Home Monte Carlo

I didn't know that there were mobile homes at Samish Lake. I was young. I bet that they're double-wides. :)
Anyway, I looked up the coordinates at Topozone.com. Right around
48.40N 122.24W (hours and minutes).
 
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kitakaze said:
Oh carp. I thought only MOTS thought that was true. No, I wrote that. Being an extremely advanced NSA AI disinformation sentinal with 7th generation bewilder/disorient protocols and state-of-the-art creduloid emulation algorithms, it does come rather easily to me.
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I really liked the make-believe (inflatable) "wife". You ever watch the movie Pi? ;)
 
Tube, You have been nominated. The beauty of this post is beyond words.

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They'll tell you the print in LTC's photo above is just a bear print. But bears have long claws! And just before the patch of earth with the print in it there was a big open stretch of loose sand that the creature would have walked through! If that's a bear print, where are the sandy claws? Don't tell me there's no sandy claws!
 
Ah, yeah, the "you should have seen the rest of the track" argument...

Someone pulled this up endless times here. Ignoring the fact that, if you are going to show something at a publication, you'll want to show the "best something" you have.

And that is a crappy something IMHO...
 
Spektator said:
They'll tell you the print in LTC's photo above is just a bear print. But bears have long claws! And just before the patch of earth with the print in it there was a big open stretch of loose sand that the creature would have walked through! If that's a bear print, where are the sandy claws? Don't tell me there's no sandy claws!
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If that's a Bigfoot print, where are the sandy Bigfoot prints ?

My guess, is that there were bear prints all over the place, and they zeroed in on the one or two they could footerize into Biggyfeet prints, and hope no one would notice...

We see it all the time..
 
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Sure, go ahead and scoff. But in 1977, when world-famous science person Marie Curie was studying bigfoot tracks in a special program at the Seaside Beauty College in San Diego, California, she said in a TV interview that only I saw and remember that all bear tracks have claw marks, and sometimes raisins. It was famous, though everybody's forgotten it because nobody but me remembers anything. In fact, that's why San Diego was called "Sandy Ego" for three weeks and two days in 1981. Or maybe 1983, don't bother me with details. I guess I ruined your day, huh? And remember, Grover Cleveland, our only Muppet President, once wrote a book in which he said some guy told him about some other guy who once saw a bear track! You can't disprove that!

Hmm....you know something? This is a lot easier than doing actual research. ;)
 
Diogenes said:
P.S.

Of course the cast seen above, was used as a model to carve the wooden foot .. Uh, huh .. Sure .. I don't have a problem with that ..
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Of course. You see, the real cast wasn't convincing enough to the scofftics, so they made fake feet to increase awareness of the real one. If only people took bigfoot science seriously they wouldn't have to resort to such desperate measures to spread the truth.
 
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Jan 19 2006, 09:32 AM
Aren't K100's great? Small form factor, an optical viewfinder that you can actually use, and a very long running time when compared to the Bolex. Plus, as you know, you can slap a reflex finder-equipped Angenieux or Pan Cinor and it becomes a reflex camera about the same size as a large Super-8.

Many, if not most, zooms are marked in "T" stops as well as "F" stops, and these should take into account the light lost inside the zoom. Your particular lens is a very old design and might not have the "T" stops indicated. If you're shooting negative film, you could probably open up a half stop or two thirds of a stop and be okay.

There is a coin slotted cover on the right side of the camera which gives access to the motor/crank drive. I have never seen the actual hand crank or electric motor, but I have one of the couplings rattling around somewhere. I thought one day it would be a fun project to use the coupling to try to adapt a crystal motor - Possibly a Tobin - to the camera, which would make it an especially compact sync camera. As I recall the shaft was 2:1, producing 24 frames for every twelve rotations of the shaft.
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I'm guessing that the cover near the short release lever is for a cable release, and the cover near the middle is for the motor drive.
 
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Since it's Halloween...

let's talk costumes. I'd love to see how the forehead slope on Patty compares to this mask. I should point out how that mask seems to be mounted as a bust of sorts. This isn't all that unusual, as evidenced by this mask website's FAQ noting that masks can be filled with foam upon request and that their masks don't come with opening cut into them. In fact, you can see pictures of the "blank" version of their Bigfoot mask (and how it looks painted/with fur attached) here.

A human head not being able to fit into Patty's head is a non-issue. Besides the arguments put forth by others, I'd like to point out this costume.

Also, check out these instructions for making a homemade Bigfoot costume and these instructions for making a realistic werewolf costume (which could easily be adapted into making a Bigfoot costume). The site where I found the link to those werewolf instructions also has links to sites that discuss homemade rubber monster suits.
 
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Ha! That's beautiful! Yeah, there wasn't any "pressure from TV producers" to rush him into judgement on the Skookum Cast. Come to think of it, I wonder if the P/G film-style arm swinging is what sold Meldrum on the Snow Walker video?

Crap, it looks like the Discovery Channel cancelled their plans to rerun the Bigfoot episode of "Best Evidence." I was really looking forward to seeing how Dr. Meldrum reacted to the costumed person doing the "Patty walk."
 
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