But in order to say that someone's beliefs are without merit, you have to say he is wrong.
No no no.... not say, but demonstrate. There is a world of difference.
But in order to say that someone's beliefs are without merit, you have to say he is wrong.
But in order to say that someone's beliefs are without merit, you have to say he is wrong.
Well, if a person believs this, what would you say about him?
You cannot say he is wrong, because you cannot know that. So, how can you say that his views are without merit, if you cannot know he is wrong?
No, JetLeg, logic decides.
That's the beauty of logic. It is objective.
And in order to say that your beliefs are not wrong, you have to say that they are right.
If so, how come so many philosophers disagree on so many topics?
If that had been true, a single answer could simply be found.
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What is the point?
Problems of what are they then?
What about the treatments that they say - work?
The actual evidence suggests that they don't. Witness the distressing tendency of "ex-gay" men to be found in the dark back rooms of clubs doing decidedly non-heterosexual things with other men.
Well, in body-mind problem, or in ethics - what is the disagreement about?
Something which cannot be proven wrong cannot be proven right. Therefore, there is no way to know if it is objective right or wrong.
Well, take the hypothesis that prayer works only for people that have true faith.
Then, imagine that god somehow reveals himself, wins the million dollar challenge, explains how he created the universe, provides some miracles under controlled settings, and so on.
Then he says "Yes, I did answer prayers, but only those that were prayed with true faith.
That would be a proof of that. So, no - I don't agree that if something cannot be proven wrong, there is no way to know objectively if it is right or wrong.
No, he can choose to reveal himself, but he doesn't have to.
JetLeg, you really should read more and post less. Of there's one thing that doesn't fly on this forum, it's hearsay. Insisting on a position without good evidence to back it up is a really fast way to lose credibility around here.As to treatments of homosexuality, I don't have any. Simply hearsay.