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Why is homosexuality wrong?

JetLeg said:
Well, the religious community could not just make it up.
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Time to change my sig. Well, it was for a long time, anyways - but this is just such a wonderful opportunity.
 
JetLeg said:
Being arrogant is wrong.
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Sure.

"I feel something is true, therefore it must be true!" is not arrogant.

"I wish to see evidence that your decision is rational before I decide it is" is arrogant.

Welcome to the logic of the delusional.

Please go back to your cave, troll.
 
Lonewulf said:
Sure.

"I feel something is true, therefore it must be true!" is not arrogant.

"I wish to see evidence that your decision is rational before I decide it is" is arrogant.

Welcome to the logic of the delusional.

Please go back to your cave, troll.
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You are implying that you are smarter than all the religious ones, aren't you?
 
Uhm... I admit that my position seems to boil down to "You are arrogant if you think I am wrong".
 
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JetLeg said:
What about the treatments that they say - work?
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When you bring some evidence to the table about these working treatments there will be something to discuss until then all we have is your apparently second hand recounting of claims of a "them" that has for thousands of years been making things up.
 
Taffer said:
Have they done scientific, double blind, studies?
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If they did, and the result showed that their "treatments" were ineffective, their predictable rationale would be that the patient's desire to be "cured" wasn't strong enough.

These are the same fools who insist that prayer works, with the same lame excuses for the vast majority of cases for which it doesn't.
 
JetLeg said:
Well, the religious community could not just make it up.

What reasons can it have???? In order to say that it is a myth, you need to explain what reasons must the religious community have to invent it.
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Over 40% of the adult population in the U.S. believes that God created man in his present form sometime in the past 10,000 years. Close to 100,000,000 Americans are prepared to ignore mountains of evidence from virtually every branch of science in order to reaffirm their belief in a literal interpretation of the Bible. The religious community has a long and well-documented history of making things up. They made up this claim (homosexuals can be cured or otherwise turned straight by prayer and faith) in order to appear less intolerant. After all, having God condemn people to hell for innate qualities that cannot be changed makes God appear to be rather unjust.
 
bokonon said:
These are the same fools who insist that prayer works, with the same lame excuses for the vast majority of cases for which it doesn't.
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Hey, but it might be true!

Prayer might indeed work, only if you pray hard enough.


I agree that the consequences of accepting such a criteria of truth are bad -> a cult leader might say that if we think he is wrong, it is because we do not have enough faith, and then exploit all of us.

But, arguing that the consequences of accepting a certain criteria for truth are bad ones is not the same as proving that it is a bad criteria for truth.

It might be indeed that prayer works only if you have pure faith.
 
Ladewig said:
They made up this claim (homosexuals can be cured or otherwise turned straight by prayer and faith) in order to appear less intolerant.
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Ok, I agree that this is a good motivation for making things up.
 
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