Bigfoot: The Invisible Variety

[tsig]

I'm afraid not. Hans Albert Einstein was a little under the weather, having died the previous year. But, please, don't let trivial details interfere with your fascinating story.

Just because he was dead did not mean he didn't help.

Such narrow-minded thinking.

Think outside the box.

If you were a true skeotic you would believe what Historian says without question.

Next you'll be saying you cannot see the invisible bigfoot on the USA flag.

You are not worthy to curry bigfoot much less see him.

 

[Marcus]

I think the physics community will be fascinated to learn that the fourth dimension has been reassigned. Where in the world could he be getting this stuff? Some woo site I suppose. The only one I have seen is Cryptomundo, this sounds a little wacky even for them.

 

[Cuddles]

Orbs are easy. They aren't even invisible.

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_79347197dce7dd5d.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://home.att.net/~ltc8k6/iceorbs.jpg[/qimg]

You're looking at the wrong orbs. You can clearly see some invisible orbs in this picture I took of an invisible bigfoot.

 

[Spektator]

I have no intention of expending any further effort on proving anything. Dismissed as hearsay? We are not in a court of law here. If you look at the record of 10's of thousands of bigfoot sightings, it is all hearsay.

Tens of thousands of bigfoot sightings? Do you have a source for that number?

 

[historian]

Just because he was dead did not mean he didn't help.

Such narrow-minded thinking.

Think outside the box.

If you were a true skeotic you would believe what Historian says without question.

Next you'll be saying you cannot see the invisible bigfoot on the USA flag.

You are not worthy to curry bigfoot much less see him.

This is a good example of the level of intelligence that frequents this board. As described previously, the 4th dimension was discussed as a means of explaining Bigfoot invisibility since 1968, to the best of my recollection. Hans Einstein worked for Univ of California from 1947 to 1970. tsig is implying here that the scientists at Berkeley were too stupid to ask Hans Einstein's permission to reassign the 4th dimension, UNTIL HAWKING ARRIVED IN 1974.
tsig's cutting edge detective work is a prime example of why this discussion no longer resembles any reasonable level of intelligence. It just is one poorly thought out attack after another, all originated from those who cannot psychologically deal with 4th dimensional people. Higher dimensional people are a fact of life, right here on earth. Get used to it. There are likely more higher dimensional people than there are 3 dimensional people. I have seen no evidence here that any other contributors has made any legitimate effort to research this subject in the field. Since the attributes of higher dimensions cannot be extropolated from applying attributes of a 3 dimensional world, you boys are completely in the dark and have no way of finding your way out of the dark, since you are apparently incapable of doing your own legitimate field research.

 

[historian]

Orbs are easy. They aren't even invisible.

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_79347197dce7dd5d.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://home.att.net/~ltc8k6/iceorbs.jpg[/qimg]

Another intelligence challenged poster with pictures of snow falling, and then he claims that snow drops or melted snow drops on his lens, are orbs. Try showing an orb picture when it is neither raining nor snowing. And try to come up with a picture that has only one orb in the entire photo.

 

[TjW]

This is a good example of the level of intelligence that frequents this board. As described previously, the 4th dimension was discussed as a means of explaining Bigfoot invisibility since 1968, to the best of my recollection. Hans Einstein worked for Univ of California from 1947 to 1970. tsig is implying here that the scientists at Berkeley were too stupid to ask Hans Einstein's permission to reassign the 4th dimension, UNTIL HAWKING ARRIVED IN 1974.

I know I'm going to be sorry for asking, but why would anyone require Hans Einstein's permission to "reassign the 4th dimension"?

 

[tsig]

This is a good example of the level of intelligence that frequents this board. As described previously, the 4th dimension was discussed as a means of explaining Bigfoot invisibility since 1968, to the best of my recollection. Hans Einstein worked for Univ of California from 1947 to 1970. tsig is implying here that the scientists at Berkeley were too stupid to ask Hans Einstein's permission to reassign the 4th dimension, UNTIL HAWKING ARRIVED IN 1974.
tsig's cutting edge detective work is a prime example of why this discussion no longer resembles any reasonable level of intelligence. It just is one poorly thought out attack after another, all originated from those who cannot psychologically deal with 4th dimensional people. Higher dimensional people are a fact of life, right here on earth. Get used to it. There are likely more higher dimensional people than there are 3 dimensional people. I have seen no evidence here that any other contributors has made any legitimate effort to research this subject in the field. Since the attributes of higher dimensions cannot be extropolated from applying attributes of a 3 dimensional world, you boys are completely in the dark and have no way of finding your way out of the dark, since you are apparently incapable of doing your own legitimate field research.

Thank you for the recognition of a higher level of intelligence here.

Thank you for the recognition of my detective work but it took no real effort since I am in the fifth dimension it was merely observation on my part.

As you seem limited to four, you have no way to find your way out of the dark.

I am doing field research by posting on this forum.

The best way to learn is to study the subjects in their native environment.

 

[tsig]

Another intelligence challenged poster with pictures of snow falling, and then he claims that snow drops or melted snow drops on his lens, are orbs. Try showing an orb picture when it is neither raining nor snowing. And try to come up with a picture that has only one orb in the entire photo.

Would a picture of the sun do.

I would post a picture but my sun looks nothing like your sun.

BTW 4D bigfoot is visible in all higher D's

 

[Spektator]

AFAIK, Hans Einstein was a professor of hydraulic engineering, a field which has little to do with the fourth dimension.

 

[Locknar]

No Locknar, once again, you do not understand. You think that you sit on your throne and make the rules, and that others must prove their recollections whereas you don't have to prove squat. I reiterated a recollection, not a claim. My initial recollection has not been shown to be false. My initial recollection involved a TV interview in Plains, Georgia. The exact date of that interview is unknown at this time. You have not proven that it never occured. You have not proven that Carter did not have any TV interviews in Plains, Georgia the day after he left office. You have not proven when he left for Germany. You have not proven that he had no interviews when he returned from Germany. You have not proven that you found all of Carter's interviews. You have not proven squat. Yet you keep coming back with more and more DEMANDS FROM YOUR THRONE.

Dismissed as hearsay? We are not in a court of law here. If you look at the record of 10's of thousands of bigfoot sightings, it is all hearsay. Using your logic from the throne, then it all must be dismissed. God help us all if the world is full of Lochnars.

Let me give you an example of a claim that should be questioned, as made by Bruto "Not Orbs?!!? I'm soooooo disappointed. Jeezum crow, historian, pull the corncob out and get the joke. Of course they're not "orbs." Nothing is orbs."

Prove that "nothing is Orbs"
Prove that Orbs do not exist.

Niether Bruto nor any of you, can prove that Orbs do not exist. You have no idea of what it takes to photograph orbs. You have no idea of what Orbs are. You have no idea of their behavior. YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE. But what is really sad here is that, YOU HAVE NO CLUE THAT, YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE.

Wow that was a lot of words to say "you are right, the press conference didn't happen on Jan 21 '81 as I claimed".

Other then claiming it happened, you've done nothing to support your claim...rather you've taken to the very tired "you can't prove it didn't happen" woo'er tact. Quite simply, you can't prove it did happen and you know it.

I am sorry to hear "I have no intention of expending any further effort on proving anything." Of course, you to start before you can stop.

Your claims in general can be dismissed, simply because you refuse to support them with any proof other then your word - which is no proof of anything.

 

[madurobob]

I know I'm going to be sorry for asking, but why would anyone require Hans Einstein's permission to "reassign the 4th dimension"?

I'm right with you, bro. I'm pretty sure both Hans Einstein and Stephen Hawking are some kind of Time Lord who must bless all mucking about with time that occurs at research facilities.

This is very enlightening and explains many of my own experiences of the mid-late 70's.

 

[AtomicMysteryMonster]

How's this for an orb picture?

Link edited to avoid potential conflict with posting rules.

 

[madurobob]

[qimg]http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ghost-hunting/cannon-orb.jpg[/qimg]

Spoooooky!

As an aside, do you think IBF was Yank or Reb?

(ETA: also, direct hot-linking images may be a breach of protocol.....)

 

[AtomicMysteryMonster]

Spoooooky!

As an aside, do you think IBF was Yank or Reb?

Since Yanks and Rebs actually existed, I'll have to vote for IBF being "Yeb."

(ETA: also, direct hot-linking images may be a breach of protocol.....)

Thanks for the tip, I made the necessary changes.

 

[Spektator]

I'm surprised that it isn't all that hard to track the movements of Jimmy Carter during the latter part of January, 1981. These are all from the New York Times, a paper that, I figure, wouldn't give Mr. Carter much of a break.

On the evening of Inaguration Day, January 20, President Carter along with Walter Mondale and a couple other members of his cabinet flew to Germany to meet the recently released Iranian hostages. They arrived in Germany on Wednesday, January 21. Mr. Carter met the hostages and was outraged at their reports of having received barbaric treatment. On January 22, still in Germany, he denounced the hostages' Iranian captors. Terence Smith, "Carter Charges Iran Subjected Hostages to 'Acts of Barbarism'", NYT Late East Coast Edition, 22 January 1981, page A1.

On January 23, Mr. Carter flew back to the U.S. and Walter Mondale delivered his report on the hostages' condition to President Reagan. Mr. Carter returned to Georgia and declined to speak to the press pending the Administration's reaction to his report. Bernard Gwertzman, "New Administration Says It Will Honor Accord on Hostages", NYT Late East Coast Edition, 23 January 1981, page A1.

On January 24, 1981, Mr. Carter told reporters that he and his family were going to spend some time in the Virgin Islands to relax after the stress of the campaign and his loss of the election. UPI, "Virgin Island Vacation for the Carters", NYT Late East Coast Edition, 24 January 1981, page 1.17.

On Sunday, January 25, 1981, Mr. Carter and his family attended services at Maranatha Baptist Church in Plains, Georgia. Mr. Carter, formerly a member of Plains Baptist Church, announced he was changing his membership to Maranatha. UPI, "Church Formed by Split Welcomes Carter Family", NYT Late East Coast Edition, 26 January 1981, page A22.

Mr. Carter apparently declined to speak to the press on January 26; he and his family were preparing for their trip to the U.S. Virgin Islands.

On Tuesday, January 27, Mr. Carter was in Americus, Georgia. Before boarding his plane to the family vacation spot he expressed his satisfaction with the way President Reagan had handled the aftermath of the hostage crisis. Then the family flew away to their vacation. AP, "Carter Praises Reagan for Stand on Hostages." NYT, Late East Coast Edition, 28 January 1981, page A17.

Mr. Carter and his family spent their vacation in a cottage owned by Roy Sewer, Superintendent of the Virgin Islands National Park. Although Amy returned to Georgia a little early to begin school, Mr. and Mrs. Carter and their son Chip remained in the Virgin Islands until Sunday, February 8. Albin Krebs, "Carters to Return Sunday from Virgin Islands Vacation", NYT Late East Coast Edition, 5 February 1981, page C16.

From there to the end of February, there is no mention at all of former President Carter's having a news conference, and none at all linking Mr. Carter's name to the term "bigfoot."

Research, it's what I do.

 

[GT/CS]

.......tsig's cutting edge detective work is a prime example of why this discussion no longer resembles any reasonable level of intelligence. It just is one poorly thought out attack after another,.......

Does everyone need new irony meters to replace all the ones that just pegged?

 

[historian]

I know I'm going to be sorry for asking, but why would anyone require Hans Einstein's permission to "reassign the 4th dimension"?

As a courtesy to deceased Albert Einstein who was the person who originally set the 4th dimension as TIME, they asked his eldest son for permission. Courtesy does exist in the real world.

 

[Spektator]

Originally Posted by TjW
I know I'm going to be sorry for asking, but why would anyone require Hans Einstein's permission to "reassign the 4th dimension"?

As a courtesy to deceased Albert Einstein who was the person who originally set the 4th dimension as TIME, they asked his eldest son for permission. Courtesy does exist in the real world.

Actually, the first person known to have referred to time as the fourth dimension was Edgar Allan Poe, in a prose-poem essay entitled "Eureka!" first published in The Gentleman's Magazine in 1848. A later writer, H.G. Wells, spun a story of a time traveler in The Time Machine (1895) in which he announced, "There are really four dimensions, three which we call the three planes of Space, and a fourth, Time." Finally, although Albert Einstein's mathematical work provided a foundation for pronouncing Time the fourth dimension, he did not explicitly do so; that was done by Hermann Minkowski in two major papers, "Raum und Zeit" (1907-08) and "Zwei Abhand lungen über die Grundgleichungen der Elektrodynamik" (1909). The former introduced non-Euclidean spacetime, a concept that Einstein did not at first accept, though it was based on his 1905 paper. If anyone deserved the courtesy of being acknowledged as the progenitor of time as the fourth dimension in a mathematical sense, it was Minkowski, not Einstein.

 

[historian]

I'm surprised that it isn't all that hard to track the movements of Jimmy Carter during the latter part of January, 1981. These are all from the New York Times, a paper that, I figure, wouldn't give Mr. Carter much of a break.

On the evening of Inaguration Day, January 20, President Carter along with Walter Mondale and a couple other members of his cabinet flew to Germany to meet the recently released Iranian hostages. They arrived in Germany on Wednesday, January 21. Mr. Carter met the hostages and was outraged at their reports of having received barbaric treatment. On January 22, still in Germany, he denounced the hostages' Iranian captors. Terence Smith, "Carter Charges Iran Subjected Hostages to 'Acts of Barbarism'", NYT Late East Coast Edition, 22 January 1981, page A1.

On January 23, Mr. Carter flew back to the U.S. and Walter Mondale delivered his report on the hostages' condition to President Reagan. Mr. Carter returned to Georgia and declined to speak to the press pending the Administration's reaction to his report. Bernard Gwertzman, "New Administration Says It Will Honor Accord on Hostages", NYT Late East Coast Edition, 23 January 1981, page A1.

On January 24, 1981, Mr. Carter told reporters that he and his family were going to spend some time in the Virgin Islands to relax after the stress of the campaign and his loss of the election. UPI, "Virgin Island Vacation for the Carters", NYT Late East Coast Edition, 24 January 1981, page 1.17.

On Sunday, January 25, 1981, Mr. Carter and his family attended services at Maranatha Baptist Church in Plains, Georgia. Mr. Carter, formerly a member of Plains Baptist Church, announced he was changing his membership to Maranatha. UPI, "Church Formed by Split Welcomes Carter Family", NYT Late East Coast Edition, 26 January 1981, page A22.

Mr. Carter apparently declined to speak to the press on January 26; he and his family were preparing for their trip to the U.S. Virgin Islands.

On Tuesday, January 27, Mr. Carter was in Americus, Georgia. Before boarding his plane to the family vacation spot he expressed his satisfaction with the way President Reagan had handled the aftermath of the hostage crisis. Then the family flew away to their vacation. AP, "Carter Praises Reagan for Stand on Hostages." NYT, Late East Coast Edition, 28 January 1981, page A17.

Mr. Carter and his family spent their vacation in a cottage owned by Roy Sewer, Superintendent of the Virgin Islands National Park. Although Amy returned to Georgia a little early to begin school, Mr. and Mrs. Carter and their son Chip remained in the Virgin Islands until Sunday, February 8. Albin Krebs, "Carters to Return Sunday from Virgin Islands Vacation", NYT Late East Coast Edition, 5 February 1981, page C16.

From there to the end of February, there is no mention at all of former President Carter's having a news conference, and none at all linking Mr. Carter's name to the term "bigfoot."

Research, it's what I do.

Make that incomplete research is what you do. You only listed Carter's itinery. You did not list every single word of his speaches during that time period. You can get some of his speaches at Vanderbilt, for about $25 each. But as I stated previously, they deleted the entire speech where Carter spoke about the hostages and about Bigfoot, not too surprisingly. You boys are a little on the naive side. People in the media business, do not often provide news that supports the existence of Bigfoot. If a public figure supports Bigfoots existence, they will see to it that the footage is not saved or never sees the light of day. On the other hand, if they can come up with some imposter cowboy who claims that he was in a bigfoot suit or some high school dropout who claims that he hoaxed every footprint ever found, then he will get star billing. It is called PROPAGANDA, brainwashing, and apparently you all bought into it, hook, line and sinker. That is how prejudice is taught and passed down to new generations. Why don't you boys go over to bfro.net and read their compilations of bigfoot sightings in your home state. They don't enter paranormal sightings into their database. But they have chat room where they allow paranormal bigfoot topics to be discussed.

http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=18679

Why don't you see if you can create havoc over there?