Bigfoot: The Invisible Variety

[madurobob]

The Bigfoot stay invisible, because the United States in particular, is filled with morons who own guns and go out into the woods on weekends to look for something to shoot.

Actually, those morons who go out into the woods? Yeah, they're sitting very quietly in the forest listening to every sound. They remove all UV brighteners from their camo clothes and they bathe in soap that is free from all perfumes and removes their natural human scent. They do all they can to be "invisible" to the eyes, ears and noses of everything else in the forest and they sit perfectly still and listen for hours at a time.

I can't really expect any intelligent comments here. Reason being is that you guys appear to have absolutely no field experience in listening for invisible people in the forest. I do.

I actually have quite a bit... see above.

Please be very careful wandering around on private property searching for invisible bigfoot ninjas during hunting season. I would not be surprised if some of your "encounters" were simply disgusted hunters making their way to another location since you spoiled the one they were in.

 

[William Parcher]

I have the answer!!!!!! - write a book - a series of books, that is - organise lucrative lecture tours, sell a variety of invisble creature detectors, and a wide range of protective stuff to protect us!!!!!

For great justice!

 

[kitakaze]

You believe *I* have a bad source? From Wikipedia: "Born in Bucharest, Romania in 1958, Adrian Dvir holds a B.Sc (Bachelor of Science) in Engineering and an M.Sc (Master of Science) in Computer Engineering, specializing in computer architecture. Married with two children and living in Israel since 1965, Dvir is employed as a developer of military computer systems. He acknowledged and began to use his abilities as a medium in 1992, and first became aware of alien other-dimensional beings in 1994."

Adrian Dvir died in 2004 but his website doesn't exactly paint a picture of rationality.

Can you explain or provide Dvir's observations, experimentation, replication, and concluding hypotheses regarding invisibility?



Please elaborate. Which physicists? In what scientific journals will I find their conclusions? Please be specific.



No, that does not make better sense. Please elaborate using scientific principles.



In other words, you have no evidence other than your own anecdotal account. Have you replicated your results while in the presence of unbiased observers? Why or why not?

RayG

I can't really expect any intelligent comments here. Reason being is that you guys appear to have absolutely no field experience in listening for invisible people in the forest. I do. Hundreds of experiences. Nor will you guys wait for the weekend to gain that experience, so that you can comment intelligently. So I have very low expectations here, so that I won't be disappointed. I will say that Wikipedia is a joke. The Bigfoot stay invisible, because the United States in particular, is filled with morons who own guns and go out into the woods on weekends to look for something to shoot.

Hey Burgstahler, is there something about Ray's very straightforward questions you find difficult? Answering them might help open some closed minds. It's not very encouraging when someone comes making very bold claims and then turtles from the simplest questions.

 

[Correa Neto]

OK, sheeple, I'll tell ya'll teh truth. After a lot of CRYPTOZOOLOGICAL, UFOLOGICAL and PARANORMAL research coupled with extensive use of clarivoyance techniches, I discovered the astonishing reality of - the "world" as we perceive is NOTHING BUT A LIE!11! A lie that is kept by those who controll the REALITY as PERCEIVED by the people. REALITY COMES IN LAYERS, layers that are ASSIGNED for most us by the GOVERNMENT (and I am talking about TEH REAL SECRET WORLD GOVERNMENT, not the puppets we see on TV posing as our rulers) and the ALIENS that controll -or try to controll this world.

DAVID ICKLE IS A DISINFORMATION AGENT!1111!!! His mission is to SPREAD LIES ABOUT THE REPITLIAN ALIENS. BIGFEET PEOPLE ARE TEH REAL ENEMIES1!1! These transdimensional creatures have been controlling and shaping our fate through the centuries. Their only goal is to create as many humans as possible to serve as FOOD SOURCE! They are ASTRAL VAMPIRES THAT FEED ON OUR AURA! They shaped an archetypicall image in to our collective consiousness as gentle and good beings of an elevated spiritual order and in constant communion with NATURE. With this disguise, they can approach us, for our unconsiouss astral defenses are low, we were programmed to detect no menace. And they frequently do so, even deep within our cities, where they are perceived as brown people and orbs; quite often they walk among us, morphed as humans, usually a bit taller and hairies than teh standard human!!111 A number of humans are regurlary abducted by bigfeet from cities and everywhere else, taken to HIDDEN SUBTERRANEAN BASES AND CITIES where some are PROGRAMMED to act as DRONES while others are plugged to LARGE QUANTUM SINGULARITY RESSONANCE MACHINES THAT COMPLETELY EXTRACT THEIR AURA OR PRANA TO FEED BIGFEET. The memories of the abducted quite often are PSIONICALLY ALTERED BY QUANTUM MIND TUNNELING as FALSE MEMORIES of abduction by reptiloids or greys.

The REPTILIAN ALIENS are trying to help us, against an ALLIANCE BETWEEN THE REAL SECRET WORLD GOVERNMENT AND THE BIGFOOT ALIENS. They fight bigfeet, but the fight must be hidden from most of humanity, so our evolution is not affected by this revelation. BIGFEET ALIENS HAVE ALREADY SCREWED UP OUR EVOLUTION BY DESTROYING THE INDEPENDENT HUMANS OF ATLANTIS WHO COULD OPPOSE THEM!!!!!!1111 TEH REPITILANS ARE ONLY TRYING TO FIX THINGS WITHOUT FURTHER CATASTROPHIC SCREW-UPS IN OUR CIVILIZATION!!11!!

Bigfoot aliens, being transdimensional, shaped in our minds an ARCHETYPE OF EVIL DEMONIAC REPTILES, such as the BIBLE'S SERPENT! This was made to undermine the BIGFEET ALIENS MADE THESE CIVILIZATIONS FALL. Atlantins was destroyed by their weapons while the Mayas were destroyed by the SPANISH EMPIRE THAT WAS SECRETLY CONTROLLED BY A MONARCHY AND THE CHURCH THAT WERE PUPPETS OF BIGFEET! THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!!!11!! THAT'S WHAT THE WAR AGAINST TERROR AND THE WAR AGAINST DRUGS ARE ALL ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!11111111111

OPEN YOUR EYES AND BEWARE AGAINST THE AGENTS OF THESE TRANSDIMENSIONAL ENEMIES OF MANKIND!

Eh, more peyote, please...

 

[historian]

I do not disagree with arthwollipot, when he states that Yowies can be invisible and are fairly vicious. On the other hand, the Bigfoot in North America have decided to get along with mankind.

Ray G states:
You believe *I* have a bad source? From Wikipedia: "Born in Bucharest, Romania in 1958, Adrian Dvir holds a B.Sc (Bachelor of Science) in Engineering and an M.Sc (Master of Science) in Computer Engineering, specializing in computer architecture. Married with two children and living in Israel since 1965, Dvir is employed as a developer of military computer systems. He acknowledged and began to use his abilities as a medium in 1992, and first became aware of alien other-dimensional beings in 1994."

Adrian Dvir died in 2004 but his website doesn't exactly paint a picture of rationality.

Can you explain or provide Dvir's observations, experimentation, replication, and concluding hypotheses regarding invisibility?

historian responds: Dvir merely acted as a telepathic note taker, and transferred those notes into a book.

Ray G states:
Please elaborate. Which physicists? In what scientific journals will I find their conclusions? Please be specific.

Historian responds: My high school chemistry and physics teacher both spoke of Bigfoot invisibility in the 70's. My college physics professor spoke of Bigfoot invisibility. Many of my college professors at U.C. Berkeley, spoke of Bigfoot invisibility. I was at U.C. Berkeley when Stephen Hawking was there and speaking animately about the paranormal Bigfoot. Yet he did not put that in any of his books, but has reiterated it in public that Bigfoot are paranormal. The U.S. Army lectured to ROTC cadets in 1970, on all paranormal phases of the Bigfoot, including their invisibility. The FBI did a national confiscation of Bigfoot books in school and public libraries about 1968. Bigfoot is not mentioned in mainstream physics books, because the morons of this country, do not want to hear about it, because they cannot deal with it. Of course if they would learn about them, they would likely be OK with them. But their own ignorance keeps them from opening their minds to learn, so they remain ignorant. Self-sustaining stupidity.

Ray G. states:
No, that does not make better sense. Please elaborate using scientific principles.

Historian states: Buy Dvir's book yourself and read about it.

Ray G. states: In other words, you have no evidence other than your own anecdotal account. Have you replicated your results while in the presence of unbiased observers? Why or why not?

Historian replies: I have called in likely Bigfoot for over 20 people. The Bigfoot were willing to make enough noise and the right types of noise, to convince them that Bigfoot are real even though they remained invisible. The Bigfoot are quite willing to get along with us. Especially if we do not shoot guns at them. They will likely never decide to live side by side with us, in the flesh and blood phase. Mankind is to vicious.

Which brings me to my Bigfoot joke:

If you were walking down a dark trail at night in the woods and came around a blind corner, would you rather run into; a grizzly bear with cubs, a hungry attorney with a frivolous lawsuit, or a bigfoot?

Answer is "a Bigfoot, because you can reason with a Bigfoot".

 

[Babylon Sister]

Berekely in the 70s. Case closed.

 

[Fredrik]

There's no way this guy is serious. He's obviously just trolling. His language gives it away. People who believe things this weird can't write sentences that make sense. When they try to explain something it's impossible to understand what they're saying. I understand what he's saying, so I think it's safe to conclude that he's just messing with us.

 

[Normal Dude]

There's no way this guy is serious. He's obviously just trolling. His language gives it away. People who believe things this weird can't write sentences that make sense. When they try to explain something it's impossible to understand what they're saying. I understand what he's saying, so I think it's safe to conclude that he's just messing with us.

I agree. Exhibit A:

I do not disagree with arthwollipot, when he states that Yowies can be invisible and are fairly vicious.

 

[grayman]

If you were walking down a dark trail at night in the woods and came around a blind corner, would you rather run into; a grizzly bear with cubs, a hungry attorney with a frivolous lawsuit, or a bigfoot?

Answer is "a Bigfoot, because you can reason with a Bigfoot".

Wrong. Answer is: Bigfoot, because the others are real.



Historian, here's some advice for quoting multiple posts: click on the " symbol 0f the posters that you'd like to quote and click on Quote of the final poster in the series of quotes. This will make it easier to read their comments and your rebuttals.

If you wish to quote a single post, just click on the Quote in that particular quote.

Several issues back, Skeptic did an excellent two-part series on the origin of the Sasquatch myth. If you can find a copy, it would be well worth a read.

 

[William Parcher]

There's no way this guy is serious. He's obviously just trolling. His language gives it away. People who believe things this weird can't write sentences that make sense.

Which of his sentences make sense? Do you mean grammatically or rationally?

When they try to explain something it's impossible to understand what they're saying. I understand what he's saying, so I think it's safe to conclude that he's just messing with us.

You should try to research who Neal Burgstahler is*, and try to find out if he seems to be an anonymous troll who is just messing with JREF.

* = Why do some BF skeptic JREF'ers seem to already know his name?

Several issues back, Skeptic did an excellent two-part series on the origin of the Sasquatch myth. If you can find a copy, it would be well worth a read.

It won't be worth a read for Neal, other than to reaffirm his personal conviction of the blindness of BF skeptics.

 

[kitakaze]

Which of his sentences make sense? Do you mean grammatically or rationally?

I can appreciate one being skeptical that anyone would actually believe the things Burgstahler does. One thing he certainly is not is coherent in his writing. Here is a February 2007 blog from Loren Coleman's cryptomundo website in which Coleman enjoys trying to come off as legitimate while calling Burgstahler on his hilarious Berkley, Hawking, etc lies:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/invisible-bf/

It's massive but even if you just read opening quotes of The Burg, 'coherent' is not the first word that comes to mind.

You should try to research who Neal Burgstahler is*, and try to find out if he seems to be an anonymous troll who is just messing with JREF.

* = Why do some BF skeptic JREF'ers seem to already know his name?

No, Neal V. Burgstahler is not just trolling. He actually believes the stuff he's talking about. Just a quick google of his name will tell you that. He's Eric Beckjord Lite. Can you imagine the two of those guys getting together for an orb session out in the woods? *shudders*

Hey Neal, who's a better invisible BF locator, you or Beckjord?

(I ask that with no small hope that Beckjord will show up on a sock puppet and there'll be a Beckjord/Burgstahler Godzilla/Mothra smackdown thing. That also might need subtitles.)

He's known from showing up at bigfoot coferences, invisble BF photos in hand and doing the routine. He's already shown up here before with a different handle with the same flail. At the moment I'm considering it an oddly tolerable relief from people who get really upset when we don't accept their ideas about a sustainable continent-wide population of relict Gigantopithecus that are too smart/elusive/rare/lucky to have been identified by science.

 

[RayG]

RayG: Can you explain or provide Dvir's observations, experimentation, replication, and concluding hypotheses regarding invisibility?

historian: Dvir merely acted as a telepathic note taker, and transferred those notes into a book.

Kinda like this?

RayG: Please elaborate. Which physicists? In what scientific journals will I find their conclusions? Please be specific.

Historian: My high school chemistry and physics teacher both spoke of Bigfoot invisibility in the 70's. My college physics professor spoke of Bigfoot invisibility. Many of my college professors at U.C. Berkeley, spoke of Bigfoot invisibility. I was at U.C. Berkeley when Stephen Hawking was there and speaking animately about the paranormal Bigfoot. Yet he did not put that in any of his books, but has reiterated it in public that Bigfoot are paranormal. The U.S. Army lectured to ROTC cadets in 1970, on all paranormal phases of the Bigfoot, including their invisibility. The FBI did a national confiscation of Bigfoot books in school and public libraries about 1968. Bigfoot is not mentioned in mainstream physics books, because the morons of this country, do not want to hear about it, because they cannot deal with it. Of course if they would learn about them, they would likely be OK with them. But their own ignorance keeps them from opening their minds to learn, so they remain ignorant. Self-sustaining stupidity.

Your answer seems anecdotal at best. What evidence do you have to support any of your speculations?

RayG: No, that does not make better sense. Please elaborate using scientific principles.

Historian: Buy Dvir's book yourself and read about it.

If you can't explain it I have doubts you have understood it.

RayG: In other words, you have no evidence other than your own anecdotal account. Have you replicated your results while in the presence of unbiased observers? Why or why not?

Historian: I have called in likely Bigfoot for over 20 people. The Bigfoot were willing to make enough noise and the right types of noise, to convince them that Bigfoot are real even though they remained invisible. The Bigfoot are quite willing to get along with us. Especially if we do not shoot guns at them. They will likely never decide to live side by side with us, in the flesh and blood phase. Mankind is to vicious.

What evidence do you have that your anecdotes are based on fact? What 20 people? How do you know they were unbiased? If the bigfoot were invisible, how do you know it was bigfoot making the noise? Can you see these invisible bigfoot?

RayG

 

[Oroborus]

Hmm, invisible bigfoot or reaaaaally tiny squirrell?

 

[DrewD]

You boys don't seem to have what some would call, an open mind.
In 1975, the previous 4th dimension of TIME, was reassigned by both a consensus of U.C. Berkeley staff and Stephen Hawking, TO EXPLAIN BIGFOOT INVISIBILITY. The Bigfoot as well as dozens of other smaller people, hide in the higher dimensions so they don't get shot by morons with guns. The reason why the government has not told you about it is evidenced by the above posts. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.

Wait, wait..... Jack Nicholson, A Few Good Men, 1992!!! Yessssss I knew that one.

Dimension changes occur by modifying the frequency of vibration of free quanta loops, as described in the book, X3. This is information relayed by also invisible aliens, to DVIR. Crop circles are made by aliens, in order to quietly prove that they are here. Bigfoot also quietly proves that he is here and real.

He quietly proves his existence by slapping your bedroom wall while roasting marshmellows over a campfire in your hallway.

The government did one very famous experiment that delt with invisibility. Residents of Philadelphia and retired U.S. Navy personnel have both verified to me that it happened. It is called the Philadelphia Experiment. Look it up on the internet. They caused a battleship to disappear.

Names and rank of said Navy personnel???

Hollywood is constantly stealing ideas from the Bigfoot, and not giving them credit for it. "Predator" is just one example, except Bigfoot is not a predator. They are benevolent interdimensional people.

How dare you!!! They do give credit where credit is due. Harry and the Hendersons!!!! I await your apology.

Don't forget to take a walk in a dark and remote woods this weekend. If we don't hear from you again, we will assume that you ran into something other than Bigfoot.

As long as I don't have a hairy bigfoot orb in my face, I will be OK.

-Drew

 

[historian]

Bigfoot have proved to me and others that they are real by:
Stomping their feet about 10 times, on my request.
Performing complicated tasks, that require memory and counting. When those tasks were performed, the sound of bipedal footsteps running through a dark woods at night, was undeniable
Communicated by answering simple questions using branch snaps to indicate a "yes" answer
Hung around camp, on request
Showed up at a Bigfoot Party, on request
Showed up at the International Bigfoot Society campout, on request
Given me wakeup branch breaks, on request
Pushing a tree over, on request
Visited me at my home, on request

You boys, in the interest of ridiculing something that you don't understand, are forgetting about "higher dimensions", that many scientists are quite comfortable with. So exactly how do you think higher dimensions are going to show themselves better, if not by invisible people standing, walking or running within earshot, so that we can verify that they are invisible? Bigfoot are just the tallest of the interdimensional people. There are a 1000 times more, smaller interdimensional people. You boys are in serious trouble, if you can't come to grips with the least populous of the interdimensional people, who exist by the millions in the U.S. alone. So please get a grip. I can't hold anyone's hand here, in order to keep you from losing your apparent thin grip on reality. Seek immediate counseling, if this topic upsets you. Perhaps you can mention this thread and get a discount. Oh yes, Berkeley got it's reputation in the 60's with the free speech movement. Not the 70's. Berkeley only redefined the 4th dimension, in the 70's.

 

[madurobob]

Bigfoot have proved to me and others that they are real by:
Stomping their feet about 10 times, on my request.
Performing complicated tasks, that require memory and counting. When those tasks were performed, the sound of bipedal footsteps running through a dark woods at night, was undeniable
Communicated by answering simple questions using branch snaps to indicate a "yes" answer
Hung around camp, on request
Showed up at a Bigfoot Party, on request
Showed up at the International Bigfoot Society campout, on request
Given me wakeup branch breaks, on request
Pushing a tree over, on request
Visited me at my home, on request

Would you, sir, have any use for a million dollars? Its yours for the taking as near as I can tell.

Please do try to come up with some original excuses as to why the money does not interest you.

So exactly how do you think higher dimensions are going to show themselves better, if not by invisible people standing, walking or running within earshot, so that we can verify that they are invisible?

Damn, I'm supposed to come up with something more bizarre than that? Or by "better" did you not mean "more entertaining"? Where is Marquis de Carabas when we really need him?

 

[William Parcher]

Bigfoot have proved to me and others that they are real by: Stomping their feet about 10 times, on my request.

This is an important lesson for skeptics. If you ask a Bigfoot to stomp their feet ten times, and they only stomp them nine times - you know that they are not a real Bigfoot.

 

[DrewD]

Bigfoot have proved to me and others that they are real by:
Stomping their feet about 10 times, on my request.

Did Bigfoot put his left foot in, take his left foot out and shake it all about????


If not, then I question the validity of the research.

-Drew

 

[Slimething]

Bigfoot have proved to me and others that they are real by:
Stomping their feet about 10 times, on my request.

Slimey one-act play #2
hist: "OK, now stomp your feet about ten times for me!"
Nature: "Thud"
hist: "One's about ten, isn't it? Ah, a bigfoot!"

Performing complicated tasks, that require memory and counting. When those tasks were performed, the sound of bipedal footsteps running through a dark woods at night, was undeniable

Slimey one-act play #3
hist: "OK, you, the tall one. You line up left; buttonhook inside at ten. And you..you..ah..post pattern from the right; break at fifteen and you're hot." ...."Hike!!!"
Sound of hist playing with himself.
hist: Angrily "OK, look you guys. We're not gonna play if you can't run the patterns AS THEY"RE CALLED!!! Now. let's do it again! Skins almost sacked me last time."

Communicated by answering simple questions using branch snaps to indicate a "yes" answer

Slimey one-act play #4
hist: walking through the woods "So, bigfoot, do you like taking walks?"
Nature: twig breaks
hist: continues walking "Do you like me? I really like you. Serious."

Hung around camp, on request
Showed up at a Bigfoot Party, on request

Slimey one-act play #5
hist: coyly "Care for another drink, bigfoot? No?"
Nature: thinks "WTF?"
hist: "OK, we can dance. Slower, bigfoot, slower..hmmmm"

Showed up at the International Bigfoot Society campout, on request

Slimey one-act play #6
hist: irritated "Look, bigfoot, last night was nice but I can't cope with a million of your buddies! You're like all the rest!"

Given me wakeup branch breaks, on request
Pushing a tree over, on request

Slimey one-act play #7
hist: groggy and grimacing in pain "Not very nice, bigfoots! Yeah, I slept on a branch to get away from your effin' Society campout and you pull me down."
Nature: thinking "heh"

Visited me at my home, on request

hist: softly "Oh, inflatable bigfoot, oh....
Nature: thinking "I'm being violated here."

 

[DrewD]

Great post slime, More of this and I won't lose interest in this post.

-Drew