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September 2007 Stundie Nominations

Gravy said:
Finally the truth movement has something substantial to hang their hat on. At LCF ihatecreditors claims that Saddam Hussein could not have grown a bushy beard...in nine months.



For comparison, here's me, a much less hirsute person than Hussein, at four months of beard growth.
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With a beard like that you'd be a shoe-in to become the dictator for life of a nice banana republic somewhere.
 
(from UK 9/11 site)
Truther sees parodies of the movement in black and white terms:
jazds said:
Posting pictures of people wearing tin foil hats may be amusing to a few sad minded individuals but to others it is extremely insulting, especially as the people who are bing poked fun of are only interested in the truth - something others wish to close their eyes and minds to. It reminds me of the time when segragationists would poke fun of black people and hand golly wogs in their windows as a display of their political views regaring integration! link
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"I dream of a day, when truthers will be judged by the content of their characters, and not the shininess of their hats..." :tinfoil
 
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Dylan Avery has an even better one, right at the start of that thread:


Does this guy provide any calculations or a mechanism for this collapse?

Bad news for Mr. Morrisey: Saying something doesn't make it true.

His calculations suggest the residual capacity of the north and south towers was limited? I suggest he do a little research into the conservation of momentum.
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Let's see, Film School Reject, PhD level Cambridge University Engineer.....who to listen to? I hate such hard decisions!

ETA: And, I almost missed it: DA asks, "Does this guy provide any calculations"?, then quotes the part about the guys calculations......:dl:
 
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Can we have a special category for the most misquotes of NIST in one thread?


NIST would've released a computer model if they had one that showed total and rapid collapse.


Especially now, instead they dismiss the claim and state that "...NIST was not assigned the task of determining how both towers collapsed at free fall speed into their own relative footprint"
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But even NIST (do I recall?) even said that hte vast majority of the fuel was burned off during the initial collision fireball, and what remained was ignited office furniture creating "2 isolated pockets of fire" that could easily have been knocked out.
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That second one might not be (entirely) a "quote" from NIST, but the sentence is so badly written, someone unfamiliar with the usual twoofer arguments might think it is....
 
A little rant just swimming in irony from troother poster "blubonnet" on the SLC Blog comments under the 9/28 post "This made my day" about MikeyMetz stepping down from UA truth group:

www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user= screwloosechange &comment=8928996400803756021
The post is at the end, or very close to the end of the comments.
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But the difference between us, is that we have the guts to be honest with ourselves, instead of cowering in denial, or shilling for cash. You all are one or the other.
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Deepb from LCF is on to you guys and your evil Stundies.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=16555

I've never heard an official reason from one of the forum moderators, so I'm not entirely sure, but I believe the idea in doing this is to keep the discussions on-topic & consistent with the core beliefs of the truth movement (as perceived by the forum administrators).

Without moderation, the JREF-bots can:
• come here with newly-created fake accounts
• start new threads or derail existing threads with purposely-controversial questions/comments
• farm quotes from the replies to post back @ JREF (I think they call them "stundies")
By doing that, they can all laugh and reassure themselves that they're right and anybody who disagrees with them is crazy. Even with moderation, they still do this, but it forces them to only ask mostly non-controversial questions.

Every once and a while, I'm sure a legitimate/non-malicious thread "slips through the cracks" and gets moderated, but the examples of that seem to be the exception rather than the rule. If they started only moving threads into a different section of the forum, there would undoubtedly still be people replying to them, and the JREF-bots would be there to troll them, unchecked.

(Again, this is all just my opinion based on what I've seen.)
 
The link is here.

The topic: Burmese protesters vs. their really-for-real-no-kidding oppressive totalitarian government. Why are the American people, embattled in their long twilight struggle against Dick Cheney, too lazy to similarly rise up and throw off their chains, etc.

The quote, by look-up @ LCF:

I couldn't risk going to jail for protesting like this unless I had my house paid off. And that is another 28 years from now.
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We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor, as soon as the mortgage is paid off.
 
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Miragememories contends, late in the day ...

MM will not be denied ;)

"It's likely the WTC7 controlled demolition trigger mechanism failed at 10:28 am and that problem had to be rectified in order to facilitate the successful 5:20 p.m. controlled demolition.
MM"

from :
LCF
... at the bottom, my time
 
Bell said:
Apollo20 said:
A bomb on the flight 11 or 175 aircraft hijacked on 9/11 would make a difference to the analysis of the impact dynamics and the elasto-plastic structural response of WTC 1 & 2.

Since there were no tests carried out for explosive residues at GZ, how do we know there wasn't a bomb on the aircraft?
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In all fairness... would a bomb onboard have such more impact on the destruction of the towers? Imho it would have differed nothing.

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Apollo20 said:
Bell:

Showing a photo of the impact of the aircraft hitting WTC 2 and saying a bomb would have made no difference is no help! What if that IS a photo of the bomb!

Please show me a photo of a similar aircraft impact where you KNOW for sure there was no bomb!
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Bolding mine.

:dl:
 
I wanted to come up with a witty introduction for this, but I'm at a loss for words.
Max Photon said:
The MAX-MIHOP hypothesis is as follows:
  • A floor in each tower had UPS batteries.
  • At least some of these "batteries" had iron leaves instead of lead, and salt water instead of acid.
  • These special "UPS batteries" were in fact iron-oxide (rust) generators.
  • When the jet hit the tower, a significant portion of the jet's aluminum was powderized.
  • The front landing gear of the jet penetrated the rust generators, throwing up a fine spray of iron-oxide and water in the path of the oncoming aluminum powder.
  • Naturally-occurring thermite sparks ignited the "improvised thermite".
  • The burning thermite, in the presence of water, created a thermite+water explosion. (I call it a phreato-thermatic explosion, at the recommendation of the many eggspurts around here.)
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Gravy said:
I wanted to come up with a witty introduction for this, but I'm at a loss for words.
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You know, it is sort of amazing that many of the Stundie Award finalists aren't also up for consideration by the Darwin Award committee.
 
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jsfisher said:
Don't sell them short. When tying your shoes is a challenge -- and I mean those kind with velcro -- then fantastic things are possible.
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Those shoes may not have a "warning: for external use only" sticker on them now, but they sure will soon!
 
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