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September 2007 Stundie Nominations

This is a rather bizarre comment from makker, commenting on the SLC article on Jon Gold's manifesto.

http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user= screwloosechange &comment=2343484827943570546 - about 45 posts down.

You wont get mark roberts talking in detail about the goals of the neocons, the actions of goverments since 9/11 the obvious fictions of the 'war on terror', the cover-ups of able danger, the implications of sibel edmonds claims , the israeli connection. Focusing right in on the melting point of steel one can make an argument either way, taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture and connecting the dots there is little debate to be had.
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If I read him right, he's saying that politics and motivation is a matter of verifiable fact, but the meting point of steel is a matter of opinion.

Dave
 
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but this is Terral at the Loose Change Forum explaining how the 5 lightpoles in front of the Pentagon got knocked over.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=16120

This first event happened so quickly, that anyone not looking that way never saw it. The missile was supersonic, so nobody ‘saw’ it pass straight through the 27 cloverleaf to knock down the 5 light poles via the ‘bow shockwave.’ Everyone would have been alarmed by the poles snapping off and coming right back down. The traffic would stop like there was a big accident. Everyone gets out of their vehicles to access the damage, but by that time the plume of smoke was carried by the wind over the Pentagon roof. Very few people saw the original missile attack. But of those who 'did' see the missile fire/smoke, that number included the firemen of Engine 161; who headed for the E-Ring wall to begin setting up to put out the fire. However, here comes the small plane on the North Citgo flight path that Michael Kelly (and the USA Today people) saw pass over their heads and strike the E-Ring wall between column line 8 and 13. Now, you saw no fire burning around the E-Ring wall ‘after’ the missile strike. Right? Look at the above frames again very closely if needed. You did see the plume of fire and then smoke go over the roof in 8 frames, but the wall itself was not on fire. Right? Okay then, where did all of these fires come from?
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More Terral

In a previous nomination I omitted to include Terral's graphic, whereby he calculates ... er, well ... that AA77 is about 2/5ths of ... something ... and is ... er ... only 2' in diameter and therefore is a cruise-missile.
That the shadow (barrier?) at the bottom of his 5' slice is much much closer than the aircraft has escaped him.

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GlennB said:
Yeah. Supersonic makes you invisible. Didn't Einstein make that very same point? It was something to do with moving really fast, I'm pretty sure.

I suspect Terral might be ChristopherA on more interesting meds ....
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As opposed to ChristopherA, who is ChristopherA on no meds.
 
GlennB said:
In a previous nomination I omitted to include Terral's graphic, whereby he calculates ... er, well ... that AA77 is about 2/5ths of ... something ... and is ... er ... only 2' in diameter and therefore is a cruise-missile.
That the shadow (barrier?) at the bottom of his 5' slice is much much closer than the aircraft has escaped him.

[qimg]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l131/Ignatz_CT/Terral5feet.jpg[/qimg]
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So according to Terral the Pentagon is ten feet tall?
 
GlennB said:
In a previous nomination I omitted to include Terral's graphic, whereby he calculates ... er, well ... that AA77 is about 2/5ths of ... something ... and is ... er ... only 2' in diameter and therefore is a cruise-missile.
That the shadow (barrier?) at the bottom of his 5' slice is much much closer than the aircraft has escaped him.

[qimg]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l131/Ignatz_CT/Terral5feet.jpg[/qimg]
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I saw that. That cracked me up. So if I hold my hand out at arm's length, the moon is half the size of my thumb, so that means the moon is only 1 inch in diameter!

There that proves there was no moon landing!
 
GlennB said:
In a previous nomination I omitted to include Terral's graphic, whereby he calculates ... er, well ... that AA77 is about 2/5ths of ... something ... and is ... er ... only 2' in diameter and therefore is a cruise-missile.
That the shadow (barrier?) at the bottom of his 5' slice is much much closer than the aircraft has escaped him.

[qimg]http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l131/Ignatz_CT/Terral5feet.jpg[/qimg]
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He is aware that the Tomahawk is subsonic I take it? self debunk alert again
 
Reggie_perrin on LCF:


Yeh, because the best way to make money is to make a film and then release it free on google and hand out copies for free in the streets, i respect your opinions but come on, i REALLY doubt the main motivation for the makers of loose change is money, sure they may make money out of the final cut but when they were making the early cuts and releasing them on the net for free they probably didn't envision whats happening now, also people need to make a living.
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They weren't "making money", they were just "making a living".

The cognitive dissonance is staggering...
 
When is a tower not a tower?

Swing Dangler is making a desperate late run for the title here.

Swing Dangler said:
Last man out of the tower...before or after it collapsed? No offense but after it collpases, it is no longer a tower. Did Lim escape prior to collapse?
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So anybody who was in the tower when it collapsed never got out of the tower, by definition.

Dave
 
It's subtle, but I think I'll go ahead and nominate Christopher7 for this question.

Christopher7 said:
Are there any examples from 911 that exhibit this refraction characteristic?
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The only inference to be drawn is that the laws of optics only applied on 911 if they were demonstrated to apply on 911; demonstrating that they applied all the rest of the time doesn't count.

Dave
 
In the LCF thread about the Albany 9/11 truth movement leader who has deprogrammed himself, holycanoli is asked how he would improve the truth movement.

Ask adult questions; by that I mean stick to what is really unreasonable.
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Finally the truth movement has something substantial to hang their hat on. At LCF ihatecreditors claims that Saddam Hussein could not have grown a bushy beard...in nine months.
Saddam's beard before we attacked was not there just a mustache. When we captured him he had a huge beard. Way beyond capabilities of beard growth for the time he was missing.
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For comparison, here's me, a much less hirsute person than Hussein, at four months of beard growth.
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