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Bush Vs. 12 year old

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I can't decide if this belongs in Politics or Humor.... and I almost didn't post it because its just too easy. But, what the heck.

Democrats Recruit a 12-Year-Old to Combat Bush
A 12-year-old boy who received life- saving care through U.S.-subsidized health insurance will speak for Democrats tomorrow in their response to President George W. Bush's weekly radio address.
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I still think our poor prez is outmatched, but its getting closer. I particularly liked this quote:
"The president doesn't have second thoughts'' - Bush press secretary Dana Perino

The hell you say!
 
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The comparison between "Bush Vs. 12 year old" is pretty
unfair since a twelve year old wouldn't get elected twice.
But this boys comments were pretty wise, I admit.
 
Oliver said:
The comparsion between "Bush Vs. 12 year old" is pretty
unfair since a twelve year old wouldn't get elected twice.
But this guys comments were pretty wise, I admit.
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You are mistaken. Bush didn't get elected twice.
 
Bush is opposed to abortion and embryonic stem cell research but if a child is already born he is willing to let a poverty stricken subset of them suffer and even die for lack of any way for them to get healthcare. This has got to be the worst hypocrisy this man has demonstrated yet. It is sick.
 
SteveGrenard said:
Bush is opposed to abortion and embryonic stem cell research but if a child is already born he is willing to let a poverty stricken subset of them suffer and even die for lack of any way for them to get healthcare. This has got to be the worst hypocrisy this man has demonstrated yet. It is sick.
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Cynthia Tucker once wrote a piece about how some politicians care deeply about babies, but only up til they emerge from the womb. After that, they can take a long crawl off a short pier.
 
I am actually surprised at the depth of the man's selfishness and stupidity. You'd think he'd realize that, in 18-20 years or so, the U.S. will need more cannon fodder. He is depriving future generations of thousands of war dead! WHY DOES GEORGE W. BUSH HATE FUTURE AMERICA!!?
 
SteveGrenard said:
... suffer and even die for lack of any way for them to get healthcare.
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This argument is not logical, Steve. Every human suffers for one reason or another. We all have access to health care, food, shelter, jobs, and still we suffer. One can blame George Washington, and every president to follow him, if one wants to.

Also worth noting is that the American government is extremely generous with providing resources to the undocumented. There is no link between Bush's pro-life stance and the population crossing our southern border illegally. :rolleyes:
 
Hey steve, wanna hook me up with access to that free food and health car? That'd be sweet, thanks. I could use a little of that shelter too, actually. Here I been working my ass off, turns out I just don't have the right phone numbers! Who knew you could build a life off poorly run & under-funded homeless shelters and dumpster diving?

Yes, these things technically exist in America. No, they are not necessarily easy for all Americans to get a hold of. Some of us will die from a lack of any one of the things listed above, and not for lack of trying.
 
Wheezebucket said:
Hey steve, wanna hook me up with access to that free food and health car?
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A health car? Would it be like Fred Flintstone's, so you get exercise as you drive? Or would it just nag you if you stopped for fast food, and ask why you didn't eat a salad instead?
 
Man, I'd get nagged a lot if it was that second one. Let's go with the Flinstones car...only with a floor...and an engine...and gas/brake pedals. Mostly I just want it to look like it's made out of rocks, ok?
 
SteveGrenard said:
Bush is opposed to abortion and embryonic stem cell research but if a child is already born he is willing to let a poverty stricken subset of them suffer and even die for lack of any way for them to get healthcare. This has got to be the worst hypocrisy this man has demonstrated yet. It is sick.
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From the article;

New Jersey, the most generous, enrolls uninsured children in families earning up to $72,000.
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Come on, let’s be real. $72,000 per year is not poverty by any stretch.
 
Axiom_Blade said:
So, what about the families that are making less than $72,000? Aren't some of them in poverty?
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Duh! For incomes up to $72,000 to be included in this program, then it really has been expanded way way way beyond it's original intention. Maybe it should be vetoed. Here's a table on poverty.

http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/06poverty.shtml


A family of 4 it's $20,000 not $72,000 Keep the program with the people who really need it.
 
steverino said:
This argument is not logical, Steve. Every human suffers for one reason or another. We all have access to health care, food, shelter, jobs, and still we suffer. One can blame George Washington, and every president to follow him, if one wants to.
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The argument was not about debating access or non-access to the items you mention, it was about hypocrisy. A lot of people voted for a religious, pious and holier than thou (he talks with god afterall) guy who holds life sacred and is opposed to abortion and embryonic stem cell research because of this. If he prevails in making good his current veto threat there will be no funding for most of the items you mention that poor children cannot afford on their own. The State programs for these kids, even the generous ones, will grind to a halt but we shouldn't be legislating a veto for the whole country because one or a few states have different levels, in some cases based on local costs and formulas. So when that access you mention which exists now stops due to this veto and poor children suffer without access to health care, step back and tell me why Bush isn't a hypocrit?

Also worth noting is that the American government is extremely generous with providing resources to the undocumented.
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They may be now although it could be debated. If the veto prevails you could no longer make this statement. Bush needs $33 million a day to prosecute his war and if he wants to hold fast on a tax increase he needs to do this. Gates just told him he underbudgeted for the next fiscal year and needs a mere additional forty five billion.

There is no link between Bush's pro-life stance and the population crossing our southern border illegally. :rolleyes:
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I don't seem to remember saying anything about the population crossing our southern border but I will talk about it anyway.

In the context of hypocrisy there is a link so I disagree. The Latino illegal immigration problem is without doubt a major problem. Just as many millions of documented and undocumented emigres from Ireland, western and eastern Europe and Asia made their way here before. But my comments concern only the threatened veto for children's healthcare.Children who in some cases are poor but legal, and others who are the offspring of illegals but were born here and are citizens. If Bush had his way many poor women, including illegal immigrants could not obtain abortions but, as was said by someone else, as soon as their baby was born they would (if this veto pevails) be doomed. Bush is assuring this with this veto. And that makes him a hypocrit. And this is being polite.
 
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Wheezebucket said:
Man, I'd get nagged a lot if it was that second one. Let's go with the Flinstones car...only with a floor...and an engine...and gas/brake pedals. Mostly I just want it to look like it's made out of rocks, ok?
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How about this bus? I photographed it yesterday. Weird that it came up here, today.
 
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