John-Keats.com Allowing Nonsense In Their Forums!!!

fuelair said:
Their forum, their rules. If you want to complain, complain to the forum/web site OWNERS. Oh wow, deja vu all over again - I feel like I have seen a complaint just like this somewhere else!!! Where could that have been???!!!
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I did complain to the owners. Did you not read my post?
 
So what, exactly, did you think should have happened? Should they have censored the posts in question because you don't believe in astrology or ... what?
 
For anybody who cares, here is, in its entirety, the horrific

AsphodelElysium said:
I actually kinda, sorta created a Keats sighting. I was surfing the net the other night and I came across a website that does astrological profiles of famous and historical figures. They didn't have Keats on their list, so I requested a profile. I got an email and the forum thanked me for the suggestion however because Keats was born before 1800 their system couldn't produce a report. Then they wrote, "However, let's just do his astrological profile for the sake of greatness and... Scorpios." So...here it is. Very Happy


http://famous-relationships.topsynergy.com/John_Keats/

I put in a request for Fanny as well. We'll see what happens. Very Happy
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Malia said:
That's a pretty cool website! And the Keats profile was pretty much right on, in my estimation. I remember back in college, I had a roommate who owned a book on astrology and as an example of the quintessential Scorpio, they listed--of all people--our man Keats. He really fits the Scorpio profile to a T.
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Saturn said:
I did this horoscope test thingy on Facebook and apparently I'm nothing like a Libran
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Malia said:
Maybe it depends on what "house" your in--etc. I have a friend who does readings and he says it is necessary to know the hour (even the minute) of your birth--not just the day and the year--in order to get an accurate reading. I certainly don't know all the details, however. I am a pretty good example of a Libra. I certainly weigh everything I do before I make any decisions (makes my Gemini sister-in-law crazy Laughing ). I don't know if I'm as romantic as they say Libras are, but well, maybe I just haven't found that special someone yet Wink
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Saturn said:
I'm trying to loosen my obsession with horoscopes; I try not to read them anymore so I'm not too bothered - I'm not typical in anything never mind a typical libran Laughing

So you're a fellow Libran Malia when is your Birthday?
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ChildeHarold80 said:
I hope Malia, Saturn, and AsphodelElysium are aware that, since the signs of the Zodiac were drawn up in the second century A.D. by Ptolemy (the same infallible authority behind the Ptolemaic system which said that the Earth was at the center of the universe), the earth's rotational axis has shifted by some 30 degrees. Thus, the signs commonly used in horoscopes are off by at least a month. They are also insufficient: there should be 13, rather than 12.

In any case, there is absolutely no evidence that the positions of the planets at the time of one's birth have any effect whatsoever on one's personality or fate. By what mechanism, I ask you, could information be related from planet to earthling? Gravity, at such distances, is far too weak to be relevant. All planets, including earth, shine by reflected sunlight, so light is out of the question.

Finally, it is demeaning to arbitrarily divide humanity into twelve separate categories. Is there a substantial difference between asserting differences in temperament between two persons, just because one was born in June and the other in November, and asserting that blacks and whites are inherently different because of their skin colors?

I must state my opinion in full. I believe it is shameful to associate the name and legacy of a great man like Keats with this facile superstition.
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Saturn said:
**Opens envelope**

"^^Okay, and the award for most provocative first post goes to..."

That is not the way to endear yourself to anyone on your first post.

ChildeHarold80 don't have a cow dude Rolling Eyes

We're only having a discussion, you know a jest, a conversation, one of those things where not everything is serious.

This is like a coffee shop, not a University lecture hall.
Rolling Eyes

Sure we have serious discussions sometimes but not all the time.
I don't get where you came up with the idea that anyone was associating Keats with astrology. If you read the whole thread there are many twists and turns and people go from idea to the next, you know how conversations happen...

You are very welcome to this site and I look forward to reading your views but lighten up dude Razz

Don't take everything so seriously.
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clerihew80 said:
I HAVE NEVER CALLED FOR CENSORSHIP
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Don't have a cow, dude.
 
If you not offended by that exchange, Gregory, then what are you even doing here? Why don't you join the gosylviabrowne forum? They'll love you and your idiosyncratic sense of humor over there.
 
I recently gave a test to my students, and a surprising number of them thought that (1/x) + 3 equals (4/x). I'm not "offended" by that, either. Most people can hear an incorrect belief without flying off the handle and acting like ... well, you. Your ludicrous attempt to paint only two options, supporting a belief or taking offense at it, is a false dichotomy.
 
Let's see. In your opening post you said:
clerihew80 said:
This is an abomination, an affront to the memory of John Keats and literature itself. I urge my fellow skeptics to visit this website and register their disgust. The thread referred to is titled "Random Keats Sightings" and it's in the "Keats Around The World" section.
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Your outrage to the very existence of the astrology post is clear, and you attempt to incite us to flood the other forum with outrage.

You continue to incite with this:
clerihew80 said:
What?! I've got to hear this craven complacency here, too? I will not relax! If need be, I will give birth to twenty cows in the name of truth!

I ask you, fellow skeptics, will you be Neville Chamberlains or will you be Churchills?
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You risk Godwin's Law to emphasize the importance to the free world of stomping out astrology posts.

Later, you add:
clerihew80 said:
It should be more than surprising. It should be shocking, intolerable.
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By now, you have the crowd stirred to a fever-pitch, eating out of the palm of your hand, ready to march to the four corners of the Internet.

Then, in response to a simple question of why we were the chosen forum, you said:
clerihew80 said:
What do you mean, "why the post here"? Because I thought that skeptics would be interested in an abuse of reason and culture. I guess I was wrong.
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I don't get it. You'd beaten the drums of war louder and louder, then, out of left field, you tell us this was all an FYI? I just don't get it.
 
From this thread:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93107&page=2

clerihew80 said:
Hell, in order to get laid, I've told chicks that I believe in astrology.
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-Fran- said:
And did it work? :)
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clerihew80 said:
Hard to say. Really, the astrology thing was one small thread in a grand pattern of dissembling.

I will say this: chicks who are into astrology are easy lays.
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From this thread here:

clerihew80 said:
What?! I've got to hear this craven complacency here, too? I will not relax! If need be, I will give birth to twenty cows in the name of truth!
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Do I contradict myself?

Very well then, I contradict myself,

(I am large, I contain multitudes).
 
jsfisher said:
I don't get it. You'd beaten the drums of war louder and louder, then, out of left field, you tell us this was all an FYI? I just don't get it.
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I don't see any inconsistency in my posts. I beat no "drums of war." My rhetoric may have been a bit emphatic, but bellicosity is your own personal interpretation. It was not my intention.
 
clerihew80 said:
My rhetoric may have been a bit emphatic,...
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Ya think?

...but bellicosity is your own personal interpretation. It was not my intention.
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We only have your words to gauge your intention. If they belie the meaning you really meant to convey, perhaps you should focus more on your communications skills than your sesquipedalian tendencies.
 
jsfisher said:
We only have your words to gauge your intention. If they belie the meaning you really meant to convey, perhaps you should focus more on your communications skills than your sesquipedalian tendencies.
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Actually, I'm quite happy with my writing style. And where have I used large words where smaller words will do?
 
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