The 9/11 Conspiracy Facts

funk de fino said:
Why dont you read the 911 commission, it tells you what operations were put in place that summer to disupt AQ, it also states 20 other countries were involved?

Have you actually read it all, because if you have you are being dishonest again?
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Notice, I said CIA, not FBI. Are you referring to the FBI's operations or are you trying to paint me as being dishonest?
 
tsire said:
I already addressed this. How do you stop this attack other the grounding all air traffic permanently? Is that a viable solution?

ETA: Determined people will always make an attack happen.
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Well for a start, the Admin. could have put into place the recommendations by the Joint Terrorism Task Force. Some of the same recommendations they proposed were found in the 9/11 Commission report.
 
tsire said:
It might have been stopped, but at what cost? As this thread has pointed out many times, these warnings are common. The United States has no direct warning as to what exactly was going to happen.

Its really easy to sit here and point fingers and say "well I would have done ...". Sure, in hindsight, a lot of changes could have been made. Its easier now to piece it all together now that we know for sure what was going to happen. But guaranteed there was conflicting information, should they have acted out on every lead? Dont you think that would have been overkill and strenuous?

And again, these measures would need to be permanent, because what would stop the terrorists from just doing it after the increased security had been lifted. These attacks werent planned overnight, they took years of planning, Im sure they would have been willing to wait a few days/weeks/months to do them if need be.
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Its even easier to sit here and say "They couldnt have done anything, they get loads of warnings". I have said this time and again- the point isnt that if they had done something, there would for 100% sure never have been a 911. No one is saying that. The point is that they had an unprecedented set of warnings, within a very clear spectrum, over and over again. They did nothing, every single time.
 
Dave Rogers said:
How many successful attacks did the IRA carry out in the UK in the 80's and 90's?

How many of these came at a time when the British government was fully expecting that the IRA was planning terrorist attacks on the UK, and had in place major measures to try to prevent them?

(Answer to question 2: all but the first one.)

Dave
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Same point! (over and over again!!!)
 
Swing Dangler said:
Notice, I said CIA, not FBI. Are you referring to the FBI's operations or are you trying to paint me as being dishonest?
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Does the FBI carry out operation overseas?

Are you saying nothing was done to counter AQ to try and prevent attacks in anyway that summer?
 
mjd1982 said:
Its even easier to sit here and say "They couldnt have done anything, they get loads of warnings". I have said this time and again- the point isnt that if they had done something, there would for 100% sure never have been a 911. No one is saying that. The point is that they had an unprecedented set of warnings, within a very clear spectrum, over and over again. They did nothing, every single time.
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There goes mj with his "unprecedented set of warnings" again. It has been proved to the opposite time and time again, but because Tenet said it while pimping his book somehow makes it true. So far, neither you or SD has come up with anything the American public would have accepted as far as security measures. The public accepts them now because they are justified in the publics eye.
 
mjd1982 said:
Its even easier to sit here and say "They couldnt have done anything, they get loads of warnings". I have said this time and again- the point isnt that if they had done something, there would for 100% sure never have been a 911. No one is saying that. The point is that they had an unprecedented set of warnings, within a very clear spectrum, over and over again. They did nothing, every single time.
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Liar again
 
Swing Dangler said:
This of course is irrelevant as I'm not in charge of airline security or the safety and security of the general public. On a personal note, I prepare myself for the added security measures that were put into place after 9/11.
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It's perfectly relevant. I was asking what you personally would do. Do you take the elevated threat level seriously?
 
lapman said:
There goes mj with his "unprecedented set of warnings" again. It has been proved to the opposite time and time again, but because Tenet said it while pimping his book somehow makes it true. So far, neither you or SD has come up with anything the American public would have accepted as far as security measures. The public accepts them now because they are justified in the publics eye.
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Lol, oh boy, we must be in d'uh bunking happy hour. It was part of Armitage's testimony to the House and Senate select commitees on intel, as well as in a18/9/2002 Congressional report and also in Tenet's book. So were they all lying???

Its a big conspiracy!
 
mjd1982 said:
Lol, oh boy, we must be in d'uh bunking happy hour. It was part of Armitage's testimony to the House and Senate select commitees on intel, as well as in a18/9/2002 Congressional report and also in Tenet's book. So were they all lying???

Its a big conspiracy!
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So all this stuff is on the public record and only the truthers with their almost super-human intelligence (as shown by their many articles published in scientific journals) have figured out that this obviously points to 911 INSIDEJOB!!!11111!!?
 
lapman said:
It's perfectly relevant. I was asking what you personally would do. Do you take the elevated threat level seriously?
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Yes. Should I not take it seriously?

So far, neither you or SD has come up with anything the American public would have accepted as far as security measures.
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Aren't you using a little hindsight to make this comment?
Here is a scenario for you:
A public address by the President in the months leading up to 9/11-
"Ladies and Gentlement it has come to my administration's attention through the excellent work of the Intelligence Community that OBL and Al-Q have been in preparation to commit a mass casualty terrorist attack on American soil using passenger airlines as instruments of destruction. My senior cabinet officials along with the FAA and the airline industry will be putting into place the following security measures to ensure the safety and security of air travel. . (insert measures here that have been recommended by the Joint Terrorism Task force prior to 9/11, security experts, FAA, and the airline industry). These measures may inconvenience you at worst but rest assured as your President I place the security and safety of the American people as my highest priority. While these measures are being instituted at airports and on airlines across the country, the FBI at home and the CIA abroad are working around the clock to bring these terrorists who mean us harm to justice. We will not falter and we will not fail nor will we be held captive by the fear that terrorists try to impose upon us."

The talking heads and pundits heap lavish praise upon the President for being a proactive President at work and not on an extended vacation. The odds are of course that 9/11 is prevented and the terrorists with box cutters are prevented from boarding the plane as they are arrested at the security checkpoints. If they do make it on the plane, air marshals are there to prevent any deaths, reinforced cockpit doors have already been installed, and
armed pilots await any terrorists that make it past the first three measures. Or perhaps the terrorists are apprehended by the FBI as Sibel Edmonds and her cohorts are not stymied or hampered by their superiors.

But instead we get a President that takes an extended vacation while him and his administration ignore numerous warnings, FBI superiors that hamper field agents in their investigation, and 9/11.


Notice, I said CIA, not FBI. Are you referring to the FBI's operations or are you trying to paint me as being dishonest?
Does the FBI carry out operation overseas?

Are you saying nothing was done to counter AQ to try and prevent attacks in anyway that summer?
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Can you answer a question without a question?
 
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