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African shaman performing levitation

insidespace said:
They doubted Edison and Einstein, remember?
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Edison, Einstein, and the lot had detailed and correct mathematics that were backed up by world-wide experimental results, and also produced products that demonstrably worked. :rolleyes:
 
dejan, see if you can spot the first suspicious element of this video. I'm going to give you a hint.

Video said:
And here we can see him preparing himself for a levitation. This will take place as soon as darkness begins to fall.
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Video said:
And here we can see him preparing himself for a levitation. This will take place as soon as darkness begins to fall.
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Video said:
And here we can see him preparing himself for a levitation. This will take place as soon as darkness begins to fall.
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Video said:
And here we can see him preparing himself for a levitation. This will take place as soon as :Banane27::Banane27::Banane27:darkness:Banane27::Banane27::Banane27:begins to fall.
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Bob, if I may call you Bob (?), if you have a dog, you know he (she?) can make him (her?) self heavier when she does not want to be picked up.

Evolution (which I believe in, although it does not have all the answers, ref: the eyeball) has provided the dog with this ability, probably when we lived in caves and someone could steal our dogs, which we needed.

How it happens? Well, maybe the dog can decrease its volume and reduce its buoyancy in air. You know, all objects have air buoyancy equal to approximately 1/700 of their water buoyancy. Just a thought.

I looked hard at the film, but I can't see anything holding him up at all. Besides there is a ring of fire around him that would prevent anyone from getting too close. How could they suspend him with the "cord" as you put it, just above the fire? It would have to be an unburnable cord, like a wire perhaps. But a wire would pinch his clothes!!!

You, see, you must study the problem, not jump to conclusions.

Why has every religion had levitation? Notice I am *NOT* claiming that G-D did this. That is too easy a claim in my opinion. I express *NO* opinion on whether G-D "could" levitate someone if He wanted to. It is just that why would He do somthing like that?

Yet every religion has levitation built in. Jesus and Mary levitated, didn't they? Or is that wires too?

And if it was wires, wouldn't he be twisting around some. It would be impossble to hold still under pressure of the wire and no support. Before jumping to the conclusion that it was wires, why not find out:

(a) Who it was in the film (what Shaman)
(b) The *exact* longitude and latitude of the "incident". GPS should give this.
(c) The weather conditions at the time of the "incident." THis should be available from the National Weather Service or its parallel in Africa (if this was Africa. If it was Hollywood, well I would be wrong).
(d) The altitude of the "incident." (Note this could be gotten from the latitudeand longitude and a good computer program!)
(e) Who were present?
(f) What kind of camera?
(g) What kind of film or digital media?
(h) Important: WHO STOOD TO GAIN FROM THIS (sadly, but some people do not tell the truth).
(i) Who handled the film?
(j) Who first looked at it?
(k) Who was the person who lit the fire around the Shaman (if he IS a Shaman)
(l) Who was the person walking around the ditch at the beginning (the same Shaman?)
(m) Who was present at the END as well as the beginning. (Hint: Things are not always as they seem).

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I am surprised he allowed himself to be filmed
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Did he really allow himself to be fimed? Looks to me like he did not allow himself to be filmed in any way that would eliminate a tired old trick.

The cameraman could clearly have shown us what we wanted to see, yet he did not.

Why?
 
insidespace said:
Bob, if I may call you Bob (?), if you have a dog, you know he (she?) can make him (her?) self heavier when she does not want to be picked up.
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Is there a competition that I don't know about? If there is then despite your small post count you're already one of my favourites.
 
insidespace said:
Bob, if I may call you Bob (?), if you have a dog, you know he (she?) can make him (her?) self heavier when she does not want to be picked up.
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That claim alone, if you could actually prove it, would earn you $1 million.

I do believe a dog not wanting to be picked up can make himself more difficult to be picked up (by using his muscles to resist being picked up). So can I. It's a gigantic leap from that observation to claiming that the dog is heavier. It's also an easily testable claim.
 
OK, well I see as I posted a little bit, I was asked for my "theory of levitation." OK here goes:

First, there is no "theory" of how the bumblebee flies, is their? It is impossible according to the finest aerodynamists. Nor could the flying of a 747 be comprehensible to a caveman. He (or she, as you know there were both kinds ha ha) would think it is "magic"? Don't even talk about TV!!!

So, how is it done? Well, there are as you know minute vibratoins in every solid above absoute zero. All atoms vibrate in a lattice work according to their temperature. Can one may learn to synchronize these vibrations? If so, then it would be a *temporary* leviation and would not violate the principle of "Conservatoin of energy".

And I think with training, Shamans can lower their body temperature. This is altering the lattice vibrations, isn't it?

The only way to know for sure is to study the Shaman and see. That's why I asked for the information.

I forgot to list the temperature at the time (although this could be part of the "weather). Can anyone help?

Hope this helps you understand.
 
Insidespace, my apologies for being rude and not welcoming you upfront. Welcome!

I cannot believe I am doing this, but here goes... I need more posts anyway.
insidespace said:
Bob, if I may call you Bob (?), if you have a dog, you know he (she?) can make him (her?) self heavier when she does not want to be picked up.
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My dog will go limp and become harder to pick up and hold onto, but by no means will she become heavier. I've been around dogs all my life, they only get heavier by eating.

insidespace said:
How it happens? Well, maybe the dog can decrease its volume and reduce its buoyancy in air. You know, all objects have air buoyancy equal to approximately 1/700 of their water buoyancy. Just a thought.
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ummmm.. wouldn't decreasing its volume make it more dense and thus decrease its bouyancy?

insidespace said:
I looked hard at the film, but I can't see anything holding him up at all. Besides there is a ring of fire around him that would prevent anyone from getting too close. How could they suspend him with the "cord" as you put it, just above the fire? It would have to be an unburnable cord, like a wire perhaps. But a wire would pinch his clothes!!!
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My friend, go to youtube and do a search on levitation. You'll find many David Blaine and Chris Angel videos. Do you seriously think they are "really" levitating? See if you can find the wires or other props. We don't see them because THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY HIDDEN FROM THE CAMERA. Next, go to google and search for levitation supplies. You'll find companies selling the props you need to do this at home and make your own movie (if this one is not of your making already). Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. When there are very simple and logical explanations those are the ones we accept. When the explanation is illogical and amazing we require a bit more than poorly shot video as proof.

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No. None of that list of things make any difference. The important question is one you conveniently left off: "Why do we not see video of his back?"
 
I once did a couple of shows to open for a very good magician who did a really sweet levitation. Long story short, if the direction his nose was facing is 0 degrees, and straight behind him is 180 degrees, I saw the trick done once from about 160 degrees, and it was still convincing. I saw it later from exactly 180 degrees, and you could see how it was done. Oh yeah, it was in full light too.

So this shaman is a particularly crappy magician.

I must admit, though, that the ring of fire is a nice touch. It brings your attention to his feet leaving the ground (which isn't what we doubt), and it dazzles the eye (and camera) so that the unlit background is virtually invisible.

And, I'm a bit of a pyromaniac! (See avatar.)
 
insidespace said:
Evolution (which I believe in, although it does not have all the answers, ref: the eyeball) has provided the dog with this ability, probably when we lived in caves and someone could steal our dogs, which we needed.
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Finally we find out what evilution has been aiming at all these years - unstealable dogs. This piece of genius made me think that insidespace must be a finely executed fake troll - but then I re-read the eyeball bit. :covereyes Perhaps you should also mention the flagellum as well just to keep us on our debunking toes, insidespace?

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Very, thank you. I am much more cheerful now.
 
I guess we should consider ourselves lucky that a great magician like Harry Houdini didn't use his talents for fraud. We might all be walking around with an "H" on a necklace today rather than a cross. Then again, the fact that Houdini was honest didn't stop the gullible from thinking he was supernatural, did it?
 
LTC8K6 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH2MDGSe_48
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Dood - you rock!

I thought I saw movement of the man as if he were sitting on the end of a "see-saw". The way his legs dangled free, but his upper body remained rigid made it look like he was suspended somewhere along his back. On second viewing I see he could easily be sitting on a small pole with a fulcrum about hip-high back in the palm trees.

just SWAG.
 
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