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Looking for challenge

Apathia said:
Chris was required to line up (on his own) three professional observers who would attest to a substaintial correction spinal allignment using Quantum Touch. He was finding it difficult to get these affadavitts. Had he gotten these in time, he would have been able to do the challenge.
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Why the need for a deadline to find some affadavitts? :confused:
 
Little 10 Toes said:
I believe that now you need a "media presence" that shows off your "talnet" as opposed to average joe saying, "Test me".
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Ah, now I get it. Didn't think of the new rules. Although I think it would have been fair to let people apply according to the old rules, if the process started before the change of the rules.
 
Ah - Quantum Touch - NOT Reiki. OK. (I sometimes have trouble differentiating between various forms of magic hand-waving.)
 
I've got... let me check my wallet... $38.72 on the "challenge".

Anyone else wanna chip in on the "Quantum Touch Challenge"?
 
OXEL said:
Ah, now I get it. Didn't think of the new rules. Although I think it would have been fair to let people apply according to the old rules, if the process started before the change of the rules.
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Last we heard from him, he just wasn't able as yet to get three professionals to sign off for him. Perhaps he would have been grandfathered in. That would be for the Jeff Wagg to decide. It's also possible that he realized he didn't have anything paramormal to demostrate, which is an honorable reason not to do the challenge, even if the JREF thinks its within the range.
 
Hi, Chris --

I have a question: do you receive any feedback through your technique? I.e., can you, say, sense the energy of a person via your touch? If yes, do you have to actually touch the person directly in order to receive the feedback, or is there a distance you can maintain? If you can still sense a person despite a standoff distance, can you sense that person's energy through a barrier (such as a sheet of cardboard or opaque cloth)?

If the questions to this are "yes", and if you have trouble working out an acceptable protocol with JREF, you might want to propose trying something simpler -- one that doesn't require finding test subjects with the proper spinal problems, etc. It could be a variation of Emily Rosa's TT test, which might be a lot easier to set up.

Just something to think about, if you run into any problems setting up the protocol as you've already applied.
 
Chris made his last post on 18 October 2006. This was 8 days after he made his first post. He last visited us on 15 May 2007. So the chances of getting a reply from him here are remote.
 
OXEL said:
Ah, now I get it. Didn't think of the new rules. Although I think it would have been fair to let people apply according to the old rules, if the process started before the change of the rules.
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He would be elligable under the old rules since his application was sent before the change. However, according to his first post here he applied in September 2006. That means he has less than two months before his application would be automatically rejected. However, given the lack of communication from him it is very likely, juding from past applicants, that his application has already been closed.
 
Hm? What! Oh my, that astral projection session with AmyWilson had me away for a bit longer than I expected.

But in all seriousness, I'd love to go through with the Challenge, but have found zero medical professionals willing to witness a demonstration and sign the needed affidavits.

If anyone knows anyone in Maryland with scoliosis, I'd be willing to use my "woo" powers on them. The results could be posted here to appease the many good JREF members who followed this thread only to be disappointed at the lack of a solid conclusion, be it woowoo humiliation or scientific revolution. :D
 
I hope you find a subject, but it sounds unlikely.

I happen to think your claim is just bunk (or self-delusion). As Webfusion said earlier, I wouldn't lift a finger to help you get your required application materials together. You're the one making the claim.

Further, if your claim were really true, I think people would be beating a path to your door by now. I find it very difficult to believe that (if your claim were true) you wouldn't have been able to find someone with scoliosis and interested medical professionals in all this time.

Your argument that medical professionals stay away from anything that smacks of quackery just isn't so. (Though I wish it were.) Seems like all the quack websites have no trouble finding an MD or PhD to sign on in promoting their snake oil or whatever.
 
Ah, but I am merely a college student with limited means, preoccupied with other projects. Finding willing people with scoliosis was never a problem - but convincing medical professionals to agree to witness and potentially sign their name to a demonstration of "woo" is not easy.

About 10-15 nurses and doctors who heard of my proposed plan did not want to help me. Perhaps later when I am in a better position to acquire professional oversight, I will apply to one of the $1,000 challenges and work my way up.
 
Christopher, could you give us the names and locations of some or all of the medical professionals that declined to be a witness for you?
 
Christopher Pille said:
Ah, but I am merely a college student with limited means, preoccupied with other projects.
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This is the sort of stuff that doesn't add up. If you can do what you claim, why bother with college? What other project could possibly be more important?

I think it's because, at one level or another, you realize that you probably can't do what you claim.
 
Credibility? What credibility? If post 192 is not explicit enough for you then nothing is. OK OK. A method of convincing a doctor you can cure people
1. Christopher finds a sick person. He says this is easy.
2. They tell Christopher the name of their doctor and the fact that they have diagnosed some incurable disorder.
3. The sick person is cured by Christopher.
4. The former sick person goes back to the doctor and the doctor agrees with the former sick person that the person is now cured. The doctor will demand to know the reason. The former sick person then tells the doctor all about Christopher.
5. The doctor and Christopher talk to each other. The doctor will do anything for Christopher.

The above has not happened. Thus Christopher has no credibility.

Maybe Christopher may find this sub forum more to his liking Humor.
 
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