Your website claims "several patents" related to ship safety but you detail only one, the "Coulombi Egg" oil tanker design (which has never been implemented).
What were the other patents?
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Your website claims "several patents" related to ship safety but you detail only one, the "Coulombi Egg" oil tanker design (which has never been implemented).
What were the other patents?
Panoply_Prefect
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The failure not to do so?
Anyhoo, no documents from the FBI would convince you. You would, just like you do with all those broadcasts, the Naudetvideo, those pictures, all those witnessess, just start saying "planted" and "faked". You have already shown that, that you really don't care much for basing your claims on anything more solid than "Its on the internet".
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How? When? By how many? Were they planted by hand, or were vehicles use to transport them? What kind of explosives? Where did they come from? Why didn't anyone notice this activity before the day?
If you can't offer some answers to the above and evidence to support them, then your theory has as much worthiness as one promoting the idea that somewhere in the asteroid belt there is a piece of chocolate cake floating around.
OT. Pls send me a private message, intoroduce yourself and I will tell you, maybe.
Thanks for your intelligent contributions to the discussion. As you know by now I find it intriguing to speculate about how 9/11 was actually done and my present stand is CD - at WTC 1,2,7 and pentagon and no planes. Same at Shanksville but no CD ... and no plane, of course. Keep it simple.
You ask details about pentagon. May I ask you why?
Anyway, it would not have been too difficult to install high power explosive devices in the pentagon wall during reconstruction taking place a little earlier before 9/11 and blow it up according some plan. I have no idea about the details. But the effects would be clear.
Unfortunate people close by would be killed by this detonation and an autopisy would have shown that it was not by, e.g. a plane crash. Was anybody killed by a plane part? Same if a proper forensic examination of the impact site had been done. The lack of plane wreckage parts anywhere makes me flabbergasted. But the public swallowed the early explanations. Everything burnt and went up in smoke. Then, parts and corpses were found inside ... but FBI could not verify anything. Etc., etc. And this does not take place in an outer space chocolate cake but just outside FBI HQ (some miles away) on the other side of the river.
But nobody at FBI HQ reacted. Sleeping at the switches, again and again?
And the gangsters are still around. That worries me.
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Because YOU made the claim of planted explosives. Either present your evidence that supports that claim, or admit that your claim is merely baseless speculation lacking any proof.
The claim of a passenger jetliner striking the Pentagon is supported by numerous eyewitness evidence and physical evidence (i.e. plane wreckage, bodies, DNA testing, etc.).
What is your claim of planted explosives supported by? Surely you must have something more concrete to present.
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Thanks for your intelligent contributions to the discussion. As you know by now I find it intriguing to speculate about how 9/11 was actually done and my present stand is CD - at WTC 1,2,7 and pentagon and no planes. Same at Shanksville but no CD ... and no plane, of course. Keep it simple.
You ask details about pentagon. May I ask you why?
Anyway, it would not have been too difficult to install high power explosive devices in the pentagon wall during reconstruction taking place a little earlier before 9/11 and blow it up according some plan. I have no idea about the details. But the effects would be clear.
Unfortunate people close by would be killed by this detonation and an autopisy would have shown that it was not by, e.g. a plane crash. Was anybody killed by a plane part? Same if a proper forensic examination of the impact site had been done. The lack of plane wreckage parts anywhere makes me flabbergasted. But the public swallowed the early explanations. Everything burnt and went up in smoke. Then, parts and corpses were found inside ... but FBI could not verify anything. Etc., etc. And this does not take place in an outer space chocolate cake but just outside FBI HQ (some miles away) on the other side of the river.
But nobody at FBI HQ reacted. Sleeping at the switches, again and again?
And the gangsters are still around. That worries me.
You mean like this?
http://www.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary_archives/stories/112901/12279-1.shtml
http://radiology.rsnajnls.org/cgi/content/full/223/1/7?vol=223&fp=7&view=full
The gangsters will be around for a long time sunbeam, they are a figment of your imagination.
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The victims were allegedly only identified by AFIP ... but no autopsies, no causes of death, no wreckage parts - the famous air plane seats are not mentioned, etc. Something is missing.
funk de fino
Dreaming of unicorns
it proves you post incorrect "facts" or you are just lying
there are other terrorists that the german courts are trying to extradite so they can charge them with 911 activities
are you saying the german courts are in on the conspiracy?
http://www.911blogger.com/node/10539
"I'll focus on the Pentagon:
Popular Mechanics claims that "hundreds of witnesses saw a Boeing 757 hit the building." They do not seem to have been to interested in analyzing the believability of some of these statements, as Griffin has done. PM quotes structural engineer Allyn Kilsheimer, who says: "It was absolutely a plane... I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them... I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I stood on a pile of debris that we later discovered contained the black box... I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"
We almost don't need Griffin's help in realizing the absurdity of this statement: "But this is hardly 'okay.' Besides the fact that few people, aside from pathologists, would pick up body parts, the tail section of a Boeing 757 is over 20 feet long and quite heavy." Also, I might add, if he held the tail section in his hand, why didn't we see a tail section in the photographs immediately following the event?
A more disturbing aspect of this eyewitness' account, however, concerns the editing of his words between PM's March 2005 magazine article and the book which appeared in the summer of 2006. In March 2005, Kilsheimer reportedly said "and I found the black box." Researchers, however, noted that the two black boxes were found, according to the official story, by two firefighters three days later. As Griffin says: "At what school of journalistic ethics did the PM authors learn that, if part of a statement you have quoted from one of your star witnesses turns out to be false ('I found the black box'), you may simply change that part of the statement (to 'I stood on a pile of debris that we later discovered contained the black box')?""
"I'll focus on the Pentagon:
Popular Mechanics claims that "hundreds of witnesses saw a Boeing 757 hit the building." They do not seem to have been to interested in analyzing the believability of some of these statements, as Griffin has done. PM quotes structural engineer Allyn Kilsheimer, who says: "It was absolutely a plane... I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them... I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I stood on a pile of debris that we later discovered contained the black box... I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"
We almost don't need Griffin's help in realizing the absurdity of this statement: "But this is hardly 'okay.' Besides the fact that few people, aside from pathologists, would pick up body parts, the tail section of a Boeing 757 is over 20 feet long and quite heavy." Also, I might add, if he held the tail section in his hand, why didn't we see a tail section in the photographs immediately following the event?
A more disturbing aspect of this eyewitness' account, however, concerns the editing of his words between PM's March 2005 magazine article and the book which appeared in the summer of 2006. In March 2005, Kilsheimer reportedly said "and I found the black box." Researchers, however, noted that the two black boxes were found, according to the official story, by two firefighters three days later. As Griffin says: "At what school of journalistic ethics did the PM authors learn that, if part of a statement you have quoted from one of your star witnesses turns out to be false ('I found the black box'), you may simply change that part of the statement (to 'I stood on a pile of debris that we later discovered contained the black box')?""
funk de fino
Dreaming of unicorns
did you read those links, it may help you to actually read stuff that people post for you
about the check for explosives, metal fragments, the dental checks, toxicology studies, photographs of injuries and last but not least this little beaut
you were saying?
Panoply_Prefect
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Well then, how would you explain the presence of passengers from a flight originating miles away from the Pentagon, and never scheduled to be anywhere near the Pentagon, amidst all that debris? Even if they were killed by explosives pre-planted in the walls?
Oh, wait, you don't have to do you? And if you do, its just "fake" and "planted", right?
Oh, but wait, there is more:
From those same links posted above.
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funk de fino
Dreaming of unicorns
you are being reported for spamming with links and quotes and not adding anything to the argument yourself
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Yes there is something missing, sunbeam, it is missing in virtually every post you have made, it is called substance.
Your ideology is so deeply entrenched you will dismiss anything at all that contradicts your already predetermined conclusion , that being no planes were used, WTC 1 , 2 and 7 were demolished, and that everybody is lying to cover it all up. This ideology allows you to dismiss the efforts of those that were there and had the ghastly task as laid out in the links I have provide you. Links you clearly have not read, nor does it appear do you wish to read.
I don't know whether the truth really is too terrible for you to accept or whether your blinding ideology will not allow you to accept that you are talking about real people. Real people that were unfortunatly in the wrong place at the wrong time and died in the most appalling circumstances imaginable. The real people that had to deal with this, which through their own expertise, dedication and something you seem to be sadly lacking in, compassion,had the grisly task of identifying these unfortunate people.
I have decided to leave this thread and will contribute no further. It is abundantly clear you believe you are far more important that those that were there and those that had this unenviable task. They have my utter respect, for the way they handled this most dreadful event. Sadly the same cannot be said of you.
Good day, sir.
What's the name of the parrot?
funk de fino
Dreaming of unicorns
respond to post #694 and 695
then retract your claims about the only ID' by AFIP
then retract your claims about the only ID' by AFIP
OK - it was just included to show how confusing witnesses are. Strange witnesses running around on place of crime and picking up things. Or was it the reverse? And I still wonder if the FDR/CVR were found within 24 hrs or after three days, etc.