An email from a Conspiracy theorist, and I have no idea how

[Heiwa]

Heiwa

Did the dresden bombings happen?

Now you have been caught lying about autopsies

According my mother-in-law that lived at Naunsdorf 2/1945 (35 kms west of) Dresden was bombed then. And visiting Dresden several times since I would agree it was bombed. Why do you ask? It seems OT.

I am not lying about autopsies - it is said they were done but I have not seen the results.

 

[Heiwa]

3. They found parts of engines at all sites

Did they? All eight? What kind of engines? Where did they come from?

 

[Panoply_Prefect]

I am not lying about autopsies - it is said they were done but I have not seen the results.

Moving the goalposts. You claimed non were preformed. They were, and you either new this, and thus were lying when you made the claim, or didn't know this and thus were ignorant.

Question is which is worst.

And I repeat myself. What experts?

 

[Heiwa]

Socialworker, remember him?

No! You mean socialservice?

 

[Heiwa]

Moving the goalposts. You claimed non were preformed. They were, and you either new this,[/b]?

They said (at the bottom of a press release) they performed autopsies but no results have been published ... how should I know if they were done? In such cases I assume they were not done.
It is like the airplane seats - in the media it is said they were found - but when you ask for proof, there is none. So I assume there were no airplane seats. My goal posts are always fixed.
It seems my standards of evidence are higher than yours.

 

[GlennB]

I haven't promised anything. The patents ++ are filed here in my office, all HC, and you are welcome to have a look anytime. But check also my home page (in Swedish).

Well, you disappoint me. You claim to be friendly and honest, too.
Regrettably I don't speak Swedish and Monaco is a long trip to see your paperwork.

Thing is, Heiwa, that there's a great deal about your website and CV that doesn't ring true, so I was hoping you could put my mind at rest by providing a link to, or even scan of, a few of your patents. Presumably an organisation like yours must own a scanner?

Actually, just the patent # for your US patents would do.

 

[Panoply_Prefect]

In such cases I assume they were not done.
It is like the airplane seats - in the media it is said they were found - but when you ask for proof, there is none. So I assume there were no airplane seats. My goal posts are always fixed.

Funny, I re-read your posts several times, and nowhere did you make that distinction. You clearly claimed that no autopsies were preformed, and now you've changed that to "Since I havent been given access to the autopsy reports, I will automatically asume that they were not done". You moved the goalposts. Should such reports be made publicly available (and I seriously hope that will never happen. I would never want my own autopsy report, or that of a relative, been made public), there is nothing stopping you from moving them again, eg running with "planted" and/or "faked".

It seems my standards of evidence are higher than yours.

They certainly are different from mine, that's for sure.

And you still haven't answered my question. What experts?

 

[funk de fino]

According my mother-in-law that lived at Naunsdorf 2/1945 (35 kms west of) Dresden was bombed then. And visiting Dresden several times since I would agree it was bombed. Why do you ask? It seems OT.

I am not lying about autopsies - it is said they were done but I have not seen the results.

I do not believe you, show me evidence that Dresden was bombed

You stated that autopsies had not been carried out and they had, you were mistaken again or lying, you tell me what it was?

 

[funk de fino]

Did they? All eight? What kind of engines? Where did they come from?

Why did you delete my first two points could you not answer them?

And yes, they did find parts of engines at all sites, I have not seen if they found all the engines but there were parts of engines found at all sites.

From the aircraft

 

[Heiwa]

1. Many people alse saw the actual planes hitting the towers with their own eyes

The video is revealing. The helicopter is hovering in the same position for a long time, i.e. not moving around or up/down as you would expect, the camera is just focusing the towers only and not moving around. Quite boring news reporting. You would expect more movement/action. I assume both the helicopter pilot and the camera man is looking at the towers. It is not clear if there is a third man in the helicopter - a reporter commenting what is to be seen - but I assume so. Don't they all three see the plane coming from right? They have a fantastic view.Apperently not. They just send a picture to some head office where other people are commenting on the pictures sent.

Then there is this funny BEEP. And here comes the plane in the video small frame! From nowhere! We see it only two seconds And one commentator - probably the one in the helicopter reports an explosion in the tower. He has not seen the plane - because it has been added to the video between the helicopter and ground station/studio. And another commentator, in the studio jumps in and explains a plane was flying in from the right ... and what the viewers should believe.

The reason why the helicopter + camera is steady is that then you can easily copy paste a pixel plane into the live show after the BEEP in a fixed picture. Not so easy if the helicopter/camera is moving and the picture is moving.

Somebody should interview the persons in the helicopter! Why this steady view? Did they really see a plane? Or was it added to the video between helicopter and studio?

To me the video is fake. Why was it faked? Simply to deceive the TV viewers.
They saw it with their own eyes a plane hitting WTC2. Deceived.

You suggest that many people around WTC2 also saw the plane with their own eyes without help of a faked video. Who are they? I doubt they exist. I imagine some fake witnesses around WTC2 reporting they saw a plane and then others in the vicinity believed that they saw a plane too, etc.

I agree 100% with socialservice. The video is faked and then the only conclusion must be that the whole plane story is also faked. Keep it simple.

 

[Heiwa]

Why did you delete my first two points could you not answer them?

And yes, they did find parts of engines at all sites, I have not seen if they found all the engines but there were parts of engines found at all sites.

From the aircraft

I think you are just forwarding rumours. First you would expect much more parts at all sites. Then, whatever debris was found, many just assumed they came from planes, because they were told planes had crashed. But let's face it: no parts have been identified to belong any planes in question.

 

[funk de fino]

The video is revealing. The helicopter is hovering in the same position for a long time, i.e. not moving around or up/down as you would expect, the camera is just focusing the towers only and not moving around. Quite boring news reporting. You would expect more movement/action. I assume both the helicopter pilot and the camera man is looking at the towers. It is not clear if there is a third man in the helicopter - a reporter commenting what is to be seen - but I assume so. Don't they all three see the plane coming from right? They have a fantastic view.Apperently not. They just send a picture to some head office where other people are commenting on the pictures sent.

Then there is this funny BEEP. And here comes the plane in the video small frame! From nowhere! We see it only two seconds And one commentator - probably the one in the helicopter reports an explosion in the tower. He has not seen the plane - because it has been added to the video between the helicopter and ground station/studio. And another commentator, in the studio jumps in and explains a plane was flying in from the right ... and what the viewers should believe.

The reason why the helicopter + camera is steady is that then you can easily copy paste a pixel plane into the live show after the BEEP in a fixed picture. Not so easy if the helicopter/camera is moving and the picture is moving.

Somebody should interview the persons in the helicopter! Why this steady view? Did they really see a plane? Or was it added to the video between helicopter and studio?

To me the video is fake. Why was it faked? Simply to deceive the TV viewers.
They saw it with their own eyes a plane hitting WTC2. Deceived.

You suggest that many people around WTC2 also saw the plane with their own eyes without help of a faked video. Who are they? I doubt they exist. I imagine some fake witnesses around WTC2 reporting they saw a plane and then others in the vicinity believed that they saw a plane too, etc.

I agree 100% with socialservice. The video is faked and then the only conclusion must be that the whole plane story is also faked. Keep it simple.

It was not the only video, there are about 40 videos?

You cannot easily pixel anythng into a live picture that looks realistic, also do the cameras not have the motion compensation arms? Did this camera have this? Did it have motion comp built into the design? You do not know do you?

Now you are calling people who actually witnessed the video liars?

You really are a lost cause

And you have provided no proof of the Dresden bombings, so your claim is false

 

[funk de fino]

I think you are just forwarding rumours. First you would expect much more parts at all sites. Then, whatever debris was found, many just assumed they came from planes, because they were told planes had crashed. But let's face it: no parts have been identified to belong any planes in question.

There are parts from 757/767 at all sites, there are engine parts from planes at all sites

If you cannot recognise them because you are not experienced in aircraft is in no way my fault, I was an aircraft tech for 12 years, I can recognise aircraft parts

where would you expext more debris and what type?

Go look at the pictures of the engine parts on other sites, then come back and see what you have to say

 

[Panoply_Prefect]

And you still haven't answered my question. What experts?

*cough* Heiwa? Feel free to admit you were mistaken, there were no experts, and I'll quite bugging you. If you weren't just inform us who they were and why you think they support your claim of pre-planted explosives.

 

[funk de fino]

This is a steadycam, they are used to stop camera motion when the camera is attached to something that moves, for example a person or a vehicle

Have a think about it, do you think that just maybe cameras could use this technology in helicopters?

Perhaps gimbal mounted cameras?

I dont know what type of camera was used, do you?

 

[Heiwa]

It was not the only video, there are about 40 videos?

The one we see is the 'live' one - or 17 seconds old after the BEEP - according to socialservice = the time to paste in the pixel plane.

Other 'live' ones (only one or two more?) are similarily manipulated with BEEPs and 'Fade to Black' and delayed comments.

It seems all helicopters were totally stationary when filming and I assume all signals down to ground went through the same ground station where the manipulations took place. The media companies might not have known what happened? But the helicopter pilots must have been given strict instructions = be stationary. Don't disturb the show!

The other amateur videos of allegedly having filmed the 'plane' are all similarily manipulated in my opinion. Simply too good to be true.

 

[Heiwa]

There are parts from 757/767 at all sites, there are engine parts from planes at all sites

Yes, I have heard those rumours and seen various photos, etc., but do they come from the missing planes? Eight big jet engines, e.g. How could they miss those?

 

[Zorglub]

According my mother-in-law that lived at Naunsdorf 2/1945 (35 kms west of) Dresden was bombed then. And visiting Dresden several times since I would agree it was bombed. Why do you ask? It seems OT.

OMG! Your grandmother is a part of the NWO-conspiracy. Has she ever proved that Dresden was bombed? Or did you just trust her stories. Damn, she has duped you big time! You mean you just believed in something without hard facts? Sending an armada of bombers in the open daylight bombing the town to a furnace with incendaries is of course a complicated way of killing people.
Actually it was the commies that put self combustifluid into the drinking water. On a specific time the habitants of Dresden self combusted.

No! You mean socialservice?

Yep, thats hims. Glad I gave you a tiny tidbit of wrongish you could answer. There was of course a real question for you to answer, but you found the unimportant part of the post to comment.

Care to point out some pieces of easily reconisable office equipment in the photos of the Pentagon crashsite?

Care to bring up that specific timeline when debris from a boeing was brought TO the crash site instead of away from it.
Anytime soon will do.

 

[Panoply_Prefect]

It seems my standards of evidence are higher than yours.

The one we see is the 'live' one - or 17 seconds old after the BEEP - according to socialservice = the time to paste in the pixel plane.

Other 'live' ones (only one or two more?) are similarily manipulated with BEEPs and 'Fade to Black' and delayed comments.

It seems all helicopters were totally stationary when filming and I assume all signals down to ground went through the same ground station where the manipulations took place. The media companies might not have known what happened? But the helicopter pilots must have been given strict instructions = be stationary. Don't disturb the show!

The other amateur videos of allegedly having filmed the 'plane' are all similarily manipulated in my opinion. Simply too good to be true.

And, dont forget:

And you still haven't answered my question. What experts?

*cough* Heiwa? Feel free to admit you were mistaken, there were no experts, and I'll quite bugging you. If you weren't just inform us who they were and why you think they support your claim of pre-planted explosives.

 

[Heiwa]

OMG! Your grandmother is a part of the NWO-conspiracy.

Glad I gave you a tiny tidbit of wrongish you could answer.

Care to bring up that specific timeline when debris from a boeing was brought TO the crash site instead of away from it.
Anytime soon will do.

Grandmother? You mean my mother-in-law? OMD? (Or my dog?) I don't have one!

Timeline! Assume the detonation in the wall took place at 00.00.00 hrs then the debris appeared at 00.00.00.5 hrs. It was fast. These gangsters are fast ... and stupid. No boeing debris that FBI could identify, though. So it was agreed all went up in smoke.