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Anyone heard about this dude? (pavelprorok on youtube)

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No one has applied with a claim about Zener cards in the time I've been working on the Challenge apps. Jeff hasn't heard of him either. Is Pavel his real name? Did he apply recently?

~Remie
 
So there is a probability factor you have to meet to pass the prelim? What is this probability factor and why was that factor chosen?
 
So there is a probability factor you have to meet to pass the prelim? What is this probability factor and why was that factor chosen?

You must beat one in one thousand odds in order to pass the preliminary challenge, to ensure that success is not a fluke.
 
Hi guys , i asked him if he had tried the 10 cards chosen from 80 test and he said his best is 3 out of 10. Out of how many tries who knows...

What are the odds on that?

I have posted in his you tube thread and i will try and get him over here......:)
 
At least some of you.


Such videos aren't flagged.


That's not on youtube. But you can have a link via PM if you want to. And you don't need to be registered at the other site. ;)


Well, usually those are not flagged too.

But maybe you want to see two girls kissing each other passionately. Or watching a serious video with practical examples about how to massage a woman's breast to reduce the probability of lymphatic glands. ;)

Hear that whooshing sound? That's the point passing you by...
 
Hi guys , i asked him if he had tried the 10 cards chosen from 80 test and he said his best is 3 out of 10. Out of how many tries who knows...

What are the odds on that?

I have posted in his you tube thread and i will try and get him over here......:)
Well He answered me already and I think there is no need to. He was very reasonable in his response. I brief all important parts:

1. He is not where he lives right now and his photocamera with video-options is not with him.
2. For now he concentrates on making readings for people who leave a comment for him.
3. He thinks about posting a video showing his abilities with zener cards. But at the same time he knows that people will remain suspicious anyway, because it is possible to cheat and not to see it on the video. So he is unsrue what to do best about this. However he might find a way to find a suitable camera and show his "set up".
4. His best results are->"with zenner its 18 out of 25, and 3 out of 10 out of 80"
5. During tests he even covers his eyes and plugs his ears so he can concentrate better and those two senses make less noise for him so to say. Additionally, he can't hear any possible hints and can't read anything from the assistants face... (So we should tell him that the test will be double-blind)
6. He followed my invitation to this forum and found it great fun. :) He will ask his sister to scan the reply from JREF and he will try to answer all our questions here, probably making a video because that would be easier for him than typing.

There you go. Sounds really good. :)


@RemieV:

I don't know about his real name, because I didn't ask such private questions. ;) But I hope the scan of the JREF reply will carify the situation.

@Zep:

Well, I don't mind. However, you can still have a link to a private sex video from Paris if you want to. I still think of that remark as a hidden wish, a Freudian remark so to say. :D
 
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Well He answered me already and I think there is no need to. He was very reasonable in his response. I brief all important parts:

1. He is not where he lives right now and his photocamera with video-options is not with him.
2. For now he concentrates on making readings for people who leave a comment for him.
3. He thinks about posting a video showing his abilities with zener cards. But at the same time he knows that people will remain suspicious anyway, because it is possible to cheat and not to see it on the video. So he is unsrue what to do best about this. However he might find a way to find a suitable camera and show his "set up".
4. His best results are->"with zenner its 18 out of 25, and 3 out of 10 out of 80"
5. During tests he even covers his eyes and plugs his ears so he can concentrate better and those two senses make less noise for him so to say. Additionally, he can't hear any possible hints and can't read anything from the assistants face... (So we should tell him that the test will be double-blind)
6. He followed my invitation to this forum and found it great fun. :) He will ask his sister to scan the reply from JREF and he will try to answer all our questions here, probably making a video because that would be easier for him than typing.

There you go. Sounds really good. :)


@RemieV:

I don't know about his real name, because I didn't ask such private questions. ;) But I hope the scan of the JREF reply will carify the situation.

@Zep:

Well, I don't mind. However, you can still have a link to a private sex video from Paris if you want to. I still think of that remark as a hidden wish, a Freudian remark so to say. :D

OXEL, thanks for your effort.
But to avoid an all-too-common chinese whispers I suggest you invite him to join the JREF Forum. If he is able to post on YouTube, he certainly should be able to post here as well.

If he's sincere, we'll have a test designed in a jif.
 
OXEL, thanks for your effort.
No problem. Somehow it's my impression that there aren't many actual challengers here for now so it would be nice to have another challenger here with us to talk about his claim. :)

But to avoid an all-too-common chinese whispers I suggest you invite him to join the JREF Forum. If he is able to post on YouTube, he certainly should be able to post here as well.
Well, there is a difference. The problem is that English is not his mother tongue, so his remark that it would be easier for him to answer our questions on youtube had a reason. Of course, now that he knows this forum, it's not reasonable anymore to have people like me communicating between him and us as in chinese whispers. Additionally, if he writes a response for me, he could write it on the forum as well without additional difficulties. I think I'll simply suggest to make a video response to answer most of our questions cumulatively for now. But I don't think he'll stick to video responses for every little question that comes up here. I guess he'll join us, link the relevant videos and answer further questions directly.

If he's sincere, we'll have a test designed in a jif.
Sorry, what is a "jif"? Did look up, but it's not in my dictionary.
 
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I just invited pavelprorok to join the JREF Forum. He has posted a comment nine hours ago saying he already has registered. Let's wait for him to join the discussion.

The cynic in me sneers that there will be lots of talk.
As in: Lots of talk.


As in: "hi everybody, what i would like to say is..that i am going to participate in JREF challenge and proof everybody that there is something paranormal and it is exist.. as i think that its also important for people to know that there is such things and they real..cause it will automatically will be one More link to the Proof that soul exist and that there is no death etc... I cant fly :) but what i can Do its dream and predict about things and usually its come true![...]" (From the link in the OP)



Nevertheless, I am ready to be surprised.
 
Thanks.


And I hope you'll be. But maybe the optimist in me is just there due to the fact that I'm new to this kind of discussions and didn't have lots of disappointments in that regard.

It's not really a disappointment when you do not expect it any different. Ah, the blessings of common sense.

If you want to brush up on past discussions, OXEL, browse this very subforum. You'll like it.
 
If you want to brush up on past discussions, OXEL, browse this very subforum. You'll like it.
I did so a bit. But unfortunately it's a bit tiring (partly because English is not my mother tongue) and somehow the excitement is not there because while reading an old thread you know that there won't be success.

You may find this strange but you simply have other expectations. ;)
 
@Zep:

Well, I don't mind. However, you can still have a link to a private sex video from Paris if you want to. I still think of that remark as a hidden wish, a Freudian remark so to say. :D
Thanks, but no thanks.

And a "hidden wish", eh? Well, yes, I do have a not-too-hidden wish about Paris Hilton. I wish she would get permanent boils and impetigo all over. Hopefully that would put an end to her pushing her way, crotch-first, into the media spotlight. So when I say she's a boring twat, that's what I really mean.

But enough of my fantasies! Tell me about yours...
 
Only when I post here or elsewhere. But that is what he calls himself on youtube.

Of course I agree with you he could register here under almost any name.
 
Only when I post here or elsewhere. But that is what he calls himself on youtube.

Of course I agree with you he could register here under almost any name.

Perhaps if enough JREF Forum members invite him to join here he might do it sooner than later.

I quote again: "hi everybody, what i would like to say is..that i am going to participate in JREF challenge and proof everybody that there is something paranormal and it is exist.. as i think that its also important for people to know that there is such things and they real..cause it will automatically will be one More link to the Proof that soul exist and that there is no death etc... I cant fly but what i can Do its dream and predict about things and usually its come true![...]" (From the link in the OP)
 
Thanks, but no thanks.

And a "hidden wish", eh? Well, yes, I do have a not-too-hidden wish about Paris Hilton. I wish she would get permanent boils and impetigo all over. Hopefully that would put an end to her pushing her way, crotch-first, into the media spotlight. So when I say she's a boring twat, that's what I really mean.
I see. No problem for me, as I dislike her myself. :)

But enough of my fantasies! Tell me about yours...
Here you go:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89448
(Small note: I had the idea about this thread before you asked me ;) )
Worth a look too:
Adriana Lima


Back to topic: Well, I'm not sure whether it's a good idea to ask him persistently about joining us. He already said he signed up and wants to answer our questions. However, as I said earlier, he is not at home. He is in another country! We don't want to get on peoples nerves, do we? ;)
 
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