Bigfoot - The Patterson-Gimlin Film

[William Parcher]

Here the one that appered that she had her arm on a tree. In this zoomed in version, you can see it's just a pattern on a tree, not her arm.

She is not close to that tree. You DO NOT understand what camera lenses do to perspective. You have no business making these arguments. But watch... your Bigfooter buddies won't stop you or even mention your errors.

 

[Correa Neto]

There were several places where Patterson ran with the camera. (we don't know what Patty had to navigate around during that time because the camera was shaking all over the place.) The stills I captured were just before and just after each Patterson run. They show Patty just before and after navigating some debris. Patty's hand is outstretched and leaning on a log after she walks between two trees. There's more running and there she is again, right in the middle of a debris mine field. Sorry I have to disagree with you on this. The pictorial evidence points clearly to a living creature, navigating around some pretty rough terrain. A man in a suit would be fumbling and falling on his face in such terrain.

Disagree if you want, but the evidence falls clearly in my court.

Here's what you can do to propperly back your claims:

-Pick one of the enhanced and stabilized PGFs on youtube, post the link and the seconds where you see Patty dodging or climbing over debris; The versions I've seen show Patty walking along a nearly horizontal path with logs located between it and the camera. There's no rough terrain at that river bed, as it can be seen in the pics.

-Present some evidence that a man in a gorilla suit could not have walked along that river bed.

Repeating claims will not turn them in to reality or make them more plausible. During the shaky parts of the footage, Patty could as well have been making a lapdance to a mothman.

And what about the questions and issues presented? Are you going to address them?

 

[kitakaze]

Kerry, as others have said, I think you're barking up the wrong tree, so to speak. You have images showing Patty walking in the proximity of detritus, not through it. Look again at Chris Murphy's model. You can see that you were wrong about such claims as leaning on logs, don't you think it's possible you are misinterpreting the images in other cases? Think logically, Patty makes a break for it. There's a lot of clear ground and some junk. Is she gliding through a bunch of junk to show off or what?

 

[Luminous]

Here's Patty walking between two trees spaced closely together.

 

[kitakaze]

Here's Patty walking between two trees spaced closely together.

Wow, don't take it offensively, Kerry, but I don't think you'll get any any serious student of the PGF (proponent or skeptic) to agree with you there. Seriously, you're having some basic misinterpretations of perspective. Please consider that possibility.

 

[William Parcher]

Here's Patty walking between two trees spaced closely together.

Just how close together are those trees? Too close for a man in a suit to pass between them?

You don't understand how camera lenses give illusions to depth. You get an "F" for your research on the PGF!

 

[Luminous]

Anyone can see that this was no walk in the park!

 

[kitakaze]

During the shaky parts of the footage, Patty could as well have been making a lapdance to a mothman.

Somewhere ranking very high amongst things I'd love to see:

- Bigfoot throw a pig

- Patty give Mothman a lap dance. (My sympathies to Mothman, forthwith.)

 

[Correa Neto]

Sympathies to Mothman?

Dude, mothman should be glad if he ever manages to have a lapdance from Patty! No head, round glowing red eyes in the chest, short wings...

OK, her boobs being so rigid could hurt poor mothman's eyes...

 

[kitakaze]

Correa, my friend, let's get our facts straight. First of all, Mothman likes Men in Black. He/it just doesn't even swing that way. Second, if anyone's getting some Pattycake, it's the Goatsucker. He's got machismo. Don't even bother with Nessie, she's got all those alien cats around.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

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[cloudshipsrule]

Luminous,

Have you watched the stabalized gif of the bigfoot footage? Watch it. Do you see the person step over anything in that footage? NO!

You show a picture of a pile of stuff with a person in a suit walking BEHIND the pile. What is that supposed to prove? The person did not walk ON TOP OF or even OVER the pile of stuff. He walked BEHIND it.

Got it?

 

[Spektator]

Here's Patty walking between two trees spaced closely together.

No. The figure is beyond both trees, and some distance away from them, at that.

 

[William Parcher]

Spektator, Patty does walk between those two trees, but there no evidence that they are closely spaced at all.

Here is the PGF; at 0:55 you will see her walk between them.

 

[William Parcher]

Loomy, you want to see some genuine wood debris at the film site? This is rather ironic, because it comes from a short video clip by MK Davis. Davis is claiming that the debris is actually Patty's tracks showing a mid-tarsal break.

Watch this for a good laugh.

Conclusion: Patterson lowers the camera, filming some driftwood right in front of him. Thirty-eight years later, MK Davis declares that this wood is Patty tracks. Pattycakes other than just Davis are now saying that you can see the tracks on the ground just after Patty makes them.

You and Davis would make a great Pareidolia Team. Har har!

 

[Luminous]

Boy, You Guys Are Desperate!

C'mon guys. You don't really think that Patty was walking down the yellow brick road, do you? Do you actually think she was walking down a completely unobstructed stream bank all the way back into the woods? Wouldn't it be nice if life were so easy!

But I understand why you're all so desperate to make everyone think that: It's because your whole argument about a man in a monkey suit falls apart otherwise.

So let me get this right; a suit-clad BH glides so effortlessly with his knees half-bent down a soft sand pathway all the way into the woods and then comes back with his mask off, shakes Pattern and Gimlin's hands and says, "let's go home, guys."

No, if that were a man in a monkey suit, he'd be walking and tripping over rocks, branches and logs until Patterson said, "Awe, forget it guys, let's find a smoother place to shoot."

The reason Patty doesn't appear to be stepping over anything is because of her bent-knee walk, during which she lifts one leg up and then puts it straight down. Her knees and hips act as shock absorbers making it appear that the ground underneath her is obstruction-free. The fact is that Patty is built to glide through treacherous terrain. BH is not.

Sure there were some spots of sand, especially the area she was drinking water from, but not all the way back into the woods. There was debris everywhere. Copious amounts of debris. It can be seen in virtually every picture.

Yes I see her stepping over rocks and logs and even in and around trees. Just watch it for yourself. Why do you think she's looking down so much once she reaches the two trees and walks between them? I'll tell you why: Debris. Lots, and lots of debris.

The reason she is able to glide so effortlessly through such terrain is because she's built for it. Bob Heironimus is not. Hence, your argument falls apart.

Sorry guys!

 

[tube]

What was Patty doing at Bluff Creek in the first place? The debris field that she walks through is the clue:

She was busy clearing away a beaver dam.

Kerry's own Adirondacks adventure was a simple homage to Patty...

 

[Luminous]

I know, I know, there can't be any debris under her feet. It's just a problem of depth perception! NOT. Even stream beds are loaded with debris. How do you think the stuff in the foreground got there? Osmosis? The water is what brought the debris in.

 

[Luminous]

Da breeze, da breeze oh won't you please...

 

[Luminous]

Hmmmm...What do I see? Patty navigating around a tree!