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Bigfoot - The Patterson-Gimlin Film

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Correa Neto said:
Well, it seems you've made up your mind and the debate is over.
But this sort of answer is of no help when it comes to debating any subject.
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Correa, the debate not over. I just had some complications in my life that I was not expecting. I thought it was best to "bow out" for a while so I could focus on getting things fixed. You have things under control here, you have the pictures to discuss etc. There's plenty to work with. Hopefully I'll return soon and we can pick up where we left off.

Again,

Best wishes

PS. Whoever said that there were no debris on the ground, only a problem with depth perception is 100% mistaken. There was much debris on Patty's pathway. She glides so smoothly over it with her bent knee walk that it appears her entire path way is unobstructed. BH in a suit could not have navigated this route without stumbling and falling.
 

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Luminous said:
PS. Whoever said that there were no debris on the ground, only a problem with depth perception is 100% mistaken. There was much debris on Patty's pathway. She glides so smoothly over it with her bent knee walk that it appears her entire path way is unobstructed. BH in a suit could not have navigated this route without stumbling and falling.
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You are free to imagine that if you want, and it may be true .

However, you have produced no evidence that Patty's pathway is obstructed at all..

We will be waiting for the aerial shots of Patty and the obstructed pathway ..



There is really a problem when you throw out things like " .. 100% mistaken ", when you show hardly any indication of having researched this film and the circumstances surrounding it at all ..
 
Loomy, don't you think that if Patty had stepped or leaped over any significant debris we would have heard about it from P&G or Titmus?

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Luminous said:
Correa, the debate not over. I just had some complications in my life that I was not expecting. I thought it was best to "bow out" for a while so I could focus on getting things fixed. ...snip...
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I thought about my last post. I think I should have added an "I'm sorry, I misunderstood you".

Sorry fot that.
 
Diogenes said:
You are free to imagine that if you want, and it may be true .

However, you have produced no evidence that Patty's pathway is obstructed at all..

We will be waiting for the aerial shots of Patty and the obstructed pathway ..



There is really a problem when you throw out things like " .. 100% mistaken ", when you show hardly any indication of having researched this film and the circumstances surrounding it at all ..
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Try Google earth and see what comes up. I think I might try that. It would be really cool to have an aerial view of that area.

Oh yeah tell "We" that his wife wants him home because his supper is getting cold! :D
 
Luminous said:
Try Google earth and see what comes up. I think I might try that. It would be really cool to have an aerial view of that area.

Oh yeah tell "We" that his wife wants him home because his supper is getting cold! :D
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Better go get that supper before it gets too cold, because Google Earth will not provide you the answer, even if Bluff Creek is at maximum avaliable rez. Stream beds (channels, sand bars, "debris fields", etc.) can change a lot across a single year. Since the event happened in 1967, chances are that several changes happened since then.

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Here's a gesstimation I made of Bluff Creek sediment distribution ages ago, based on a pic that was taken not too long after the PGF (sorry, can't remember the source or exact date- maybe one of the fellow posters can). Chances are this is a better source of information than Google Earth. Not much of a debris field, I would say.
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Correa Neto said:
Better go get that supper before it gets too cold, because Google Earth will not provide you the answer, even if Bluff Creek is at maximum avaliable rez. Stream beds (channels, sand bars, "debris fields", etc.) can change a lot across a single year. Since the event happened in 1967, chances are that several changes happened since then.
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That's true. It's been 40 years. I wonder how much has changed. Still, a close up may provide a view of the kind of debris Patty encountered.
 
The pics of Murphy's PGF site reconstruction posted by William Parcher and the elevated view of the site I posted seem to indicate the area was relatively clear of debris.

The type of debris? What one would expect in that sort of stream: logs and branches.
 
Jim McClarin duplicated Patty's path on film while her tracks were still visible. He doesn't appear to have any trouble with debris. John Green did the filming.

This is well known.

I have never heard anyone say Patty had to step over any debris.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I have never heard anyone say Patty had to step over any debris.
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YOU ARE DEAD WRONG YOU NARROW MINDED SCOFTIC. OUR LADY OF THE WILDERNESS STEPPED OVER THIS HOLY STICK, NOW ENSHIRNED AS A REVERED RELIC IN PLEXIGLAS:



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I was just going to mention that stick and how it is like the holy grail. :D

Imagine if she'd stepped over a log! It would be one of the main subjects of discussion concerning the PGF. As would Patty's tracks as she stepped over it.

Stepping over anything would be a huge deal to believers and skeptics alike, imo. Lots of analysis from both sides of the motions of Patty as she stepped over...
 
Correa Neto said:
The pics of Murphy's PGF site reconstruction posted by William Parcher and the elevated view of the site I posted seem to indicate the area was relatively clear of debris.

The type of debris? What one would expect in that sort of stream: logs and branches.
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I just posted pictures where she had to navigate around and over a debris field. It's funny you feel the need to "debunk" that particular point. It shows that you know I'm right; that a man in a suit could have never navigated the terrain. So you have to prove that Patty had a clear pathway. The pictures prove otherwise. There were some debris. The pictures out rank a model of the area 100 times over. Who build that model anyway? What's it based on, sketches? Have they ever been there personally?
 
LTC8K6 said:
Jim McClarin duplicated Patty's path on film while her tracks were still visible. He doesn't appear to have any trouble with debris. John Green did the filming.

This is well known.

I have never heard anyone say Patty had to step over any debris.
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Me too. Luminous, you knew about this, right? Speaking of holy sticks, if I may ask Luminous, are you religious at all? Just curious.
 
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