Korey Rowe arrested for desertion

I am a healer, not a fighter.

That said, my comment on the matter is this.

If deep down Korey felt he was fighting for a war he didnt believe in, then he had to make a moral choice. Desert your fellow soldiers and your duty that you pledged to, because you feel the cause goes against your beliefs, OR stay and fight for a war you do not believe in, because your sense of duty overrides this.

He chose, and he chose knowing the consequences. Now he should pay for his crime, as per a military courts decision. EOS.

TAM:)
 
boloboffin said:
Forfeiture of all pay and allowances? Does that mean he has to pay everything he's ever earned from the Army back? Or does that mean just from the point of desertion (plus signup bonuses and stuff like that)?
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Good thing that LC:FC will be hitting the theaters and making so much money. Dylan ought to be able to pay that off for him easily.


:rolleyes:
 
Maybe it's just me, but I keep thinking about Brave Sir Robin in Monty Python and the Holy Grail who "bravely ran away".
 
8den said:
As a non yank with zero military experience, could someone fill me in. Korey will be tried by a military tribunal and not a civilian court yes? Can he be bailed in the interium before his case is heard (I Imagine not), and what concievable sentence are we talking here? Served where? Stockade? (I've not used that word since the A Team was on) Civilian Prison?

Just curious.
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If indicted, he will face a courtmartial. The typical punishment for desertion actually has quite a broad range. He could be awarded punishment and ordered back to active service to fulfill his contract or he may be awarded any or all of reduction in rank, confinement, other-than-honorable discharge and forfeiture of pay. The sentence, of course, will rely on the circumstances. He can be bailed, but bail isn't exactly the right term. You don't post bail as a military prisoner. If they see fit, you may be released to fulfill your duties as circumstances warrant. But, as you imply, they are usually hesitant to do that with a deserter. If he is sentenced to confinement, it will likely be served in the federal penitentiary at Fort Leavenworth, KS. My guess, based a bit on experience, is that he will get reduction in rank, forfeiture of pay and an other than honorable discharge. Although the discharge, given the current manpower crises in the Army, might be waived. It used to be the Army had so many quality recruits that they didn't need losers like Rowe and readily dismissed them. A different story now, of course. He could end up in Iraq, and that would probably be the worst punishment (from his perspective).
 
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Forefeiture of all pay and allowances does NOT mean past earnings. It means from the time you are found guilty until said designated time, you don't get base pay, housing allowance, or your food allowance.
 
T.A.M.-
I see your point, but he had other options. It is still possible to declare yourself a conscientous objector and the military will respect that (that's not to say your fellow SOLDIERS will, but... *chuckles*). There are numerous other ways he could have gotten out besides desertion, ones that wouldn't leave such a stain on his professional life. And yet he chose this way. The coward's way. I'm honestly curious as to why, myself. I hope we find out a bit more about it in the ensuing weeks.
 
T.A.M. said:
I am a healer, not a fighter.

That said, my comment on the matter is this.

If deep down Korey felt he was fighting for a war he didnt believe in, then he had to make a moral choice. Desert your fellow soldiers and your duty that you pledged to, because you feel the cause goes against your beliefs, OR stay and fight for a war you do not believe in, because your sense of duty overrides this.

He chose, and he chose knowing the consequences. Now he should pay for his crime, as per a military courts decision. EOS.

TAM:)
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Well said.
 
Sabrina said:
T.A.M.-
I see your point, but he had other options. It is still possible to declare yourself a conscientous objector and the military will respect that (that's not to say your fellow SOLDIERS will, but... *chuckles*). There are numerous other ways he could have gotten out besides desertion, ones that wouldn't leave such a stain on his professional life. And yet he chose this way. The coward's way. I'm honestly curious as to why, myself. I hope we find out a bit more about it in the ensuing weeks.
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Sabrina:

Welcome to the forum...I assume you are the same Sabrina we have seen post over at SLC BLog?

I am not an expert, so I am not aware of the different ways he could have gotten out. I am not defending his choice, merely saying it is the choice he made, so now he must pay the piper. Perhaps the other ways would have taken longer, and he didn't want that, I do not know, I am not Korey. My speculation on what through his head, is pure speculation...maybe he got out for completely different reasons. Perhaps he could have had someone shoot him in the foot "by mistake" to get out. Maybe he could have just asked...I have no idea.


TAM:)
 
Mince said:
It used to be the Army had so many quality recruits that they didn't need losers like Rowe and readily dismissed them. A different story now, of course. He could end up in Iraq, and that would probably be the worst punishment (from his perspective).
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That would be terrible!!! :( :( :(
 
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Dylan said:
Ok, here's the deal.

We just talked to him.

He's fine. He'll be home safe and sound in a week or so.

Thread closed. Make all the "censorship" and "twoofer" jokes you want.
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"safe and sound".....not really much of an explanation. Dylan's appears to want to keep this quiet and "handle it ourselves".

My favorite part of the whole thread: One of the twoofers said that anyone profiting off of Korey's situation is a scumbag, someone cleverly responded in agreement, with a link to the Loose Change store.
 
Home safe and sound and awaiting court martial.

Given that he's a deserter, it's more likely he'll be confined to quarters on the nearest military base until such time as his court martial convenes.

Man I'd pay good money to go see that; I wonder where it'll be held?
 
Guys, Mr. Avery just explicitly gave us permission to make all the "censorship" and "twoofer" jokes we want!
 
"Twoofer" jokes? Here goes:

Q: How do you get two "twoofers" to give the same story?
A: Shoot one of them :D

Dylan gave me permission after all :P
 
If I were mean I would go back through the threads and reawaken my "You know your a truther when" joke thread...lol

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
I am a healer, not a fighter.

That said, my comment on the matter is this.

If deep down Korey felt he was fighting for a war he didnt believe in, then he had to make a moral choice. Desert your fellow soldiers and your duty that you pledged to, because you feel the cause goes against your beliefs, OR stay and fight for a war you do not believe in, because your sense of duty overrides this.

He chose, and he chose knowing the consequences. Now he should pay for his crime, as per a military courts decision. EOS.
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If looking at it from that point of view, the honorable thing to do would have been for him to make his choice known to his superiors and peers and then stayed to face the consequences.

He chose to simply walk away. No matter how you twist it, there is no honor in that.
 
MSgt USAF retired, served 1973 to 1997. C-130 Flight Engineer. Panama, Bosnia, Haiti, Iraq, Horn of Africa and a bunch of places they didn't shoot at us.
On the original topic; If you're not willing to go to a war, don't join the military.

Robert Klaus
 
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