Korey Rowe arrested for desertion

As a non yank with zero military experience, could someone fill me in. Korey will be tried by a military tribunal and not a civilian court yes? Can he be bailed in the interium before his case is heard (I Imagine not), and what concievable sentence are we talking here? Served where? Stockade? (I've not used that word since the A Team was on) Civilian Prison?

Just curious.
 
Interesting comment from one of the twoofers:

LUCUS said:
Any so-called truther who makes a single dime off this is not a truther, but a complete scumbag and WILL be ostisized from the movement.
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So, I guess it's ok for Dylan & company to make money promoting a conspiracy lie, but anyone trying to make money off of Korey's situation is a scumbag.


8den said:
As a non yank with zero military experience, could someone fill me in. Korey will be tried by a military tribunal and not a civilian court yes? Can he be bailed in the interium before his case is heard (I Imagine not), and what concievable sentence are we talking here? Served where? Stockade? (I've not used that word since the A Team was on) Civilian Prison?

Just curious.
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I think that he's held by authorities until he is picked up by the military. Not sure on sentencing.
 
MolBasser said:
According to the article, someone called the sherrif to tip him off to Korey's whereabouts and deserter status.

Seems like someone had an axe to grind.

MolBasser
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If I had known he was a deserter I'd have called him in regardless of CT or any other factors. I find desertion to be unforgivable.
 
Long time reader, first time poster. *waves*

I've served myself; still am, from 2001 to the present. I was commissioned as an officer in December 2001. I find cowardice like Korey's to be reprehensible.

By the way, I noticed someone asking what would happen to him and thought I'd post this:

Maximum punishment.

(1) Completed or attempted desertion with intent to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 5 years.

(2) Other cases of completed or attempted desertion.


(a) Terminated by apprehension. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 3 years.

(b) Terminated otherwise. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 2 years.

(3) In time of war. Death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.


Source (sorry, can't post links yet) usmilitary(dot)about(dot)com(forward slash)od(forward slash)punitivearticles(forward slash)a(forward slash)mcm85(dot)htm on Article 85 of the UCMJ.
 
The bad thing about listening to such virilent anti-government kooks like Alex Jones is that you start breaking laws. Perhaps they have to believe the US is a police state in order to continue to obey the laws that they do. As one of my favorite comic strips said, "You obey seemingly inane laws to the letter when you're carrying as many drugs as I am."

Well, that's an awkward paraphrase.

PS: Somebody's finally kicked off a commiserating thread at DU about this. The first comment to elicit a low, mordant chuckle from me: "This is going to backfire on the government bigtime, with all the publicity for Loose Change."
 
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8den said:
As a non yank with zero military experience, could someone fill me in. Korey will be tried by a military tribunal and not a civilian court yes? Can he be bailed in the interium before his case is heard (I Imagine not), and what concievable sentence are we talking here? Served where? Stockade? (I've not used that word since the A Team was on) Civilian Prison?

Just curious.
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He'll be held by the sheriff until retrieved by the military police. He faces court martial under the UCMJ and if convicted will most likely be remanded to Ft Leavenworth and allowed to make big rocks into little rocks for a while.

Top that off with the addition of a Bad Conduct Discharge. Not many people get very far in life with the "Big Chicken Dinner" hanging over their heads. It renders a person virtually unhireable with most employers.
 
Sabrina said:
Long time reader, first time poster. *waves*

I've served myself; still am, from 2001 to the present. I was commissioned as an officer in December 2001. I find cowardice like Korey's to be reprehensible.

By the way, I noticed someone asking what would happen to him and thought I'd post this:

Maximum punishment.

(1) Completed or attempted desertion with intent to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 5 years.

(2) Other cases of completed or attempted desertion.


(a) Terminated by apprehension. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 3 years.

(b) Terminated otherwise. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 2 years.

(3) In time of war. Death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.


Source (sorry, can't post links yet) usmilitary(dot)about(dot)com(forward slash)od(forward slash)punitivearticles(forward slash)a(forward slash)mcm85(dot)htm on Article 85 of the UCMJ.
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So thats 1) or 2)a) in his case.
 
Forfeiture of all pay and allowances? Does that mean he has to pay everything he's ever earned from the Army back? Or does that mean just from the point of desertion (plus signup bonuses and stuff like that)?
 
RedIbis said:
Fair enough. I was asking because you said that it was true deserters are not usually pursued and arrested.

I would agree, without knowing much about the case at all, that if this arrest were for show, it would make sense to time it around the opening of LCFE.

That said. This is no different than violating any other law. I do find it surprising that a guy would take such a risk, being in the public, for such a controversial film.

Sort of like violating parole while promoting a documentary about police brutality.
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More like being AWOL while producing a film of lies only dolts would buy.
 
Sabrina said:
Long time reader, first time poster. *waves*

I've served myself; still am, from 2001 to the present. I was commissioned as an officer in December 2001. I find cowardice like Korey's to be reprehensible.

By the way, I noticed someone asking what would happen to him and thought I'd post this:

Maximum punishment.

(1) Completed or attempted desertion with intent to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 5 years.

(2) Other cases of completed or attempted desertion.


(a) Terminated by apprehension. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 3 years.

(b) Terminated otherwise. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 2 years.

(3) In time of war. Death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.


Source (sorry, can't post links yet) usmilitary(dot)about(dot)com(forward slash)od(forward slash)punitivearticles(forward slash)a(forward slash)mcm85(dot)htm on Article 85 of the UCMJ.
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STALKER!! :D
 
Joshua Korosi said:
There's that old high-school mentality. "I'm in trouble, but it's not my fault for actually doing something wrong; it's your fault for telling on me/finding out about it."

If Korey hadn't deserted in the first place, the person with the axe to grind would be SOL, wouldn't he?
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Yep. Korey is (alledgedly) a deserter at this point. He deserves what he gets. I was just pointing out that most deserters just fade away.

Makes no sense for a guy who has deserted to then climb to the mountaintop and scream that the government that he deserted is criminal at the top of his lungs.....

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, that is for sure.

MolBasser
 
DFAS isn't all that good at keeping their systems updated, so Korey may have been drawing pay and allowances up until now, boloboffin, in which case he will have to pay them back, but otherwise it'll just mean that he is no longer eligible for any future pay and allowances, I believe. But please don't quote me on that. :)

scissorhands: Actually, I think 2a is not applicable; I read that as if you are arrested while serving it can count as desertion, but heaven knows I'm no lawyer. I'll have to research that one.
 
Korey purposely deserted to encourage the military and law enforement to research his whereabouts themselves.
 
Sabrina said:
DFAS isn't all that good at keeping their systems updated, so Korey may have been drawing pay and allowances up until now, boloboffin, in which case he will have to pay them back, but otherwise it'll just mean that he is no longer eligible for any future pay and allowances, I believe. But please don't quote me on that. :)

scissorhands: Actually, I think 2a is not applicable; I read that as if you are arrested while serving it can count as desertion, but heaven knows I'm no lawyer. I'll have to research that one.
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I took terminated by apprehension as meaning arrested for desertion, rather than handing himself in, which would be a mitigating factor.
I know less than nothing about this however.:)
 
Anyone on here someone who can interpret legalese? Military legalese at that? *G*
 
To be fair, the military does not actively pursue deserters. Unfortunately for the deserter though, there is no statute of limitations on the crime. Odds are, someday, somewhere, they will do something on record that will pop a flag up at the DoD and someone will come knocking on their door with papers and handcuffs.

There was a news blurb in the last couple of years about a deserter arrested after 40 years of being AWOL/UA
 
Alareth said:
Top that off with the addition of a Bad Conduct Discharge. Not many people get very far in life with the "Big Chicken Dinner" hanging over their heads. It renders a person virtually unhireable with most employers.
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Rowe won't have to worry about that. LC:FC is going to be a huge box-office smash. He'll never have to work again!!!
 
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