SOMERLED
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Talking about having a pee, pressure is applied.I never fancied being a schoolteacher either. That's why I'm a vet. And have extensive experience using these i/v infusions Malcolm has such difficulty understanding. (Less familiarity with the fancy bells and whistles some people have mentioned whereby it may be possible, with the right equipment, not to need to hold the bag up, but plenty familiar with the bog-standard simple way of doing it, which is still the commonest you'll come across even in human medicine, and what you'd expect to see at an accident site.)
Malcolm, what part of They. Are. Made. Of. Flexible. Polythene. So. That. They. Collapse. Down. As. They. Empty. don't you understand?
Have you ever emptied a hot water bottle? Was there a BIG hole in the top of it?
Have you ever had a pee? Do you think there is a BIG hole in the top of your bladder?
Face it, Malcolm, ordinary gravity feed via an ordinary drip-regulated giving set is still the commonest way to administer i/v fluids, and certainly the most likely thing you'll find at an accident scene. These bags have to be held up in order to work properly. While there may be other ways to do it, and someone mentioned putting the bag under the patient's head temporarily to keep a bit of pressure on during transit, it's more lilkely than not that someone would simply hold the bag up.
That's why not a single medic or vet or paramedic or firstaider on this forum or anywhere else thinks there's anything even slightly strange about the scene.
Rolfe.
Where is that pressure applied on a sealed bag?
The bag is sealed. Air pressure won't empty it any different three feet from the ground or six feet from the ground.
You're throwing your 'qualifications' about. I daresay some one here would call it an 'argument from authority'.
I call it attempting to win an arguement by demanding respect from a position of elitism.
Now you knowwhat I think of elitists.
So you and I will hammer this one out between us.
1. Are all IV bags gravity fed?
2. How long does it take to empty such a bag. Bearing in mind the varying rates of drip. What would be the average time for such a bag to empty?
Or are you all bark and no bite.
