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Bigfoot - The Patterson-Gimlin Film

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tube said:
If you want to find out if something is an illusion or not, ask the illusionists themselves, not members of the intended audience.

I'm amused that in Jeff Meldrum's new book he introduces the nearly 40 year old testimony of ONE individual within the professional costume community, Janos Prohaska, as evidence that Patty is not a guy-in-a-suit.
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You're talking about a man who has knowledge you can't even pretend to equal. You talk down as if you're in some way superior to him, when in truth, you can't even hold a lamp to what he knows! Give honor to where honor is due. If you would do that, I would give proper respect to you.

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Luminous said:
You're talking about a man who has knowledge you can't even pretend to equal. You talk down as if you're in some way superior to him, when in truth, you can't even hold a lamp to what he knows! Give honor to where honor is due. If you would do that, I would give proper respect to you.

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Meldrum's bigfoot knowledge is no better than anyone else and your wishful-thinking will not change that.

Try following where the evidence leads not what some bigfoot demi-god proclaims.

RayG
 
RayG said:
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Meldrum's bigfoot knowledge is no better than anyone else and your wishful-thinking will not change that.

Try following where the evidence leads not what some bigfoot demi-god proclaims.

RayG
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Thanks for the advice, Tube.
 
tube said:
What I'm talking about is a very specific skill, the ability to recognize theatrical costume illusions. That Meldrum lacks this particular skill is well evidenced by his vetting ON TELEVISION of the so-called "Snow Walker" footage as a real animal.

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/films/snowwalker.htm
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I can't deny that you're right about the "snow walker" video. He definitely dropped the ball on that one. But you gotta admit, it was realistic looking.
 
kitakaze said:
And boobs in the MDF. Boobs, even.
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I've had the opportunity to examine the MDF closely. Though I can can't conclude with any certainty that it's a sasquatch; I can't say that it's not either. There does appear, however, to be a "morphing" shape that seems to be moving around independent of the figure. As for breasts, I heard they were there, but I could not see them. But I was not viewing a first generation copy either.
 
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Just nine more and I can decorate the walls with some pictures...

Sombody say, "cheeze!"

:D
 
Luminous said:
Just nine more and I can decorate the walls with some pictures...
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I'll help out. We can have a quick chat. I want to see pictures!

Hi, Luminous!
How long have you been interested in BF?
 
Gravy said:
I'll help out. We can have a quick chat. I want to see pictures!

Hi, Luminous!
How long have you been interested in BF?
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Just what pictures would you like to see? My cat? My car?

If I answer question number two, you'll know my age. Hmmmm. Don't think I want to disclose that to a total stranger. After all, you could be a stalker or something. Anyways, I like appearing younger than I really am. Oh the vigor of youth!

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Oh, I thought you were referring to posting BF-related pics here. Your cat would be nice.
 
LTC8K6 said:
We know how to cut and paste links, Luminous. No need to have waited to show us anything. Any one here would have gladly posted anything you cared to show us.
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Thanks for making that known. What picture could I have shown that you probably haven't already seen? I have pictures that clearly show Patty's muscle-tone. Since you've already made the decision to deny the obvious, what good would it do me to display them? After all, it's all just foam and padding, right? It won't matter what I show, you've already set your opinions in stone. Your scoffing throughout this thread has made that clear. I'm no fool. I've been on the earth long enough to spot insincerity. You know all to well of what I speak, and yet you've chosen to remain in willful denial. It's a suit. That's all you will consider and nothing else. I find myself asking, "Why am I here?" It's looking like this is nothing but a colossal waste of time. Why do I want to converse with a bunch of people who live to argue; Professional "contrarians" who want to impress everyone with their superior debating skills. If there's anyone here who believes that Patty is a flesh and blood animal, please speak up now. You're response may determine whether I will continue to post here.
 
Yes, Luminous. Lots of people have told us that they see muscle tone. Yes, we disagreed for the most part. Yes, we looked at lots of stills and clips. Undoubtedly we have been over any argument you will make a number of times.

There is always the possibility that you have a new angle, though.

This is, after all, a skeptics board. It seems odd to be upset that "there be skeptics here".

I'm sorry if some folks assumed you were going to post pictures. Your post seemed to indicate that:

Just nine more and I can decorate the walls with some pictures...
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I only meant that if you didn't want to wait until you reached 50 posts, we would have posted your pics and or links for you.

I think it's a man wearing a suit. That is merely my opinion. I assure you that I have looked at and listened to a whole lot of material on the subject, and scoffed at very little of it. I am not making any extraordinary claims. It is merely my opinion after a lot of study.

If there's anyone here who believes that Patty is a flesh and blood animal, please speak up now. You're response may determine whether I will continue to post here.
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That won't go over well...

There is certainly a tiny possibility that Roger filmed an actual sasquatch. There just isn't any evidence except the film itself, which anyone who is fair will agree is debatable, imo. At this moment, the film might be of sasquatch, or it might be of a man in a suit. As such, it says little about the existence of sasquatch.
 
Luminous said:
If there's anyone here who believes that Patty is a flesh and blood animal, please speak up now. You're response may determine whether I will continue to post here.
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So if I agree with you that the PGF depicts a living sasquatch you'll stay and discuss whether or not bigfoot exists? ....Interesting.
 
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