Have you ever had a "religious experience"?

Miss Anthrope said:
(Major snippage mine)

:seerrrr:

It would appear that DJJ's replacement has joined the forums.
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my thoughts exactly.

MINISTERofTRUTH said:
Are these excellent examples of absolute stupidity, ignorance and arrogance ?

If, on the other hand, the axis of your mind points away from beliefs and towards truths instead, it doesn't take long to surpass the achievements of Albert Einstein.

If you can't do that, then you are basically a useless twit that satisfies ones self in a fraction of a second by jumping to a conclusion.
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MoT--how's that Fermat coming? Or some cosmology?




blobru said:
Sorry MoT dude, you caught me at a bad time for this stuff (between psychoses). :gasp:
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your post before this--the longer one--was great.



my candidates--but they are peak experiences, not explicitly religious.

But they had the intensity and the lasting effect.


-the first girlfriend I loved. some moments of rapport

-listening to Keith Jarrett play My Funny Valentine (on Still Live) while on LSD

-Coltrane (A Love Supreme, etc.)

-music theory breakthroughs

-Mozart

-Beethoven

-listening to that piece by the girl with the halo; looking at her.

Listening to you, I get the music,
Gazing at you, I get the heat...:D



I've never had a quasi-religious experience with cannabis, alcohol, sex, or anything else besides music and love.

I suspect--for me--the religious feeling is very much the temporal lobe feeling.

Oh, and Zen and the Brain is a very interesting book:)
 
Miss Anthrope said:
What strikes me as so odd is the sheer ego that suggests god deems one more important than another. Sure, he was saved from being hit by a car, but the child being brutally murdered by a psychopath down the street.......
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MA, you seem to forget that "God works in mysterious ways". Just like the minds of his followers.
 
Lonewulf said:
The thing was, it was less so that he survived and attributed it to God, and moreso that, from his perspective, the survival experience was *impossible*, but still happened.

I have to admit, if the laws of physics were broken before my eyes, I would have to either assume that I was mistaken or delusional or somesuch, OR believe in either the supernatural or the incredible. (Though, thanks to my personal biase, I'd head towards either the incredible or the mistaken).
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I think it has to do with people unintentionally embellishing memories. (That goes for all kinds of paranormal experiences...not just "god".) Especially when you're hanging out with people who Ooo and Aaahh over whatever story, bit by bit, it becomes more and more "extreme". And then you forget that you might have just slightly embellished a little here and there, and it becomes "the absolute truth" in your mind. It takes a whole lot of humility and courage to go back later and explore the possibility that it didn't really happen exactly like that.
 
arthwollipot;

No? Just no.

ahhh. I want to say that.

waitaminit I still can.

no. (me too)
 
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I don't know about you guys, but I am now a die-hard believer in Bible codes. Otherwise how would MoT be able to explain them so succinctly?

BREVITY = 30 + 50 + 1 + 20 = English 101
 
Wow, Lisa Simpson is responsible for a lot of people. If "with great power comes great responsibility" is true does that make the reverse true as well?

Lisa can you make John Taylor's sweat land on Hokule?
 
I had a religious experience once . . . :searghhhh: . . . then I flushed.
 
Yet another holy God-number! Just once, ONCE, I would like a numberperson to explain someone else's God-number.
 
Lonewulf said:
Yo.

In this thread, a poster named Verum stated that he had a religious experience:



So, I'm asking anybody, whether they are or were Buddhist or Christian, Hindu or Muslim, if they've ever had what they would describe as any kind of a "religious experience" -- whether or not you are currently an atheist, and have come to question said experiences.

I'm curious about this phenomenon, though I am beginning to feel that it's somewhat exaggerated. Thank you. :)
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When you say "somewhat exaggerated" do you mean its importance is exaggerated, or it's intensity, or that it is not as widespread a phenomenon as you thought, or what?....Maybe a forum full of atheists isn't the best place to ask..Come to think of it, maybe a forum full of atheists wasn't the best place for me to bring it up.
 
verum said:
When you say "somewhat exaggerated" do you mean its importance is exaggerated
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Yes

or it's intensity
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Yes.

or that it is not as widespread a phenomenon as you thought, or what?
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I don't know how widespread it is.

....Maybe a forum full of atheists isn't the best place to ask..Come to think of it, maybe a forum full of atheists wasn't the best place for me to bring it up.
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On the contrary.

Many atheists on this thread seem to have had a sensation of euphoria much like what you might call the "experience". Yet they are still atheists.

Curious. Maybe it doesn't guarantee certainty as much as you thought.
 
I don't think "the experience" is generally exaggerated. I think it's a very real, complex psychological phenomenon that is extremely powerful at the time.
Run of the mill "miracles" witnessed are what tend to get exaggerated.
Two separate things there.
 
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