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Psychics and Missing People

An update on the national TV segment that was recently filmed:

The last involved person was filmed, but there seems to be some related issues that need to be resolved first.

Sorry to be vague, but I can't say more at this time.

The "issues" could make it a bigger story, or it could make it fade away and never be shown.

Hopefully, it's the former.

Kelly
 
Cool, I can't wait to see/tape the segment.

Sorry, but right now I am reminded of a Mission Impossible line: "You've never seen me very upset."

I am getting close. Close to the edge of toleration.

I used to think psychics were entertainment. The fact is they are liars, and I will no longer sit back and watch as they make promises they do not keep.

No longer will I find them a stage act, when they hurt people I love. They have become the enemy.
 
Kelly said:
...How could they show this piece?
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I know the question is rhetorical, but I'll supply the obvious answer anyway: because it panders to a popular delusion that a significant segment of their audience believes in. I think it's telling that I didn't find this piece all that bad, probably because I've been so jaded by my own local media. Sure, it's one-sided, without a single balancing word of skepticism. On the other hand, it's tame compared to the hyperventilating love my local newspaper heaped upon that bleached blonde bloodsucker Carla Baron.
 
"I feel like she had been disturbed about somthing, was upset about something and I feel like it was financial and I think it was something to do with money that troubled her," she said.
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Oh, so it was financial and it was something to do with money!

:sigh:
 
You can rate the article. It's 9 in favor, and 7 unfavorable at the moment.

The seer is pointing a finger at the woman's ex. If that is wrong, then I hope he can sue her for her unsubstantiated accusations.
 
Some good media coverage on the issue: Possibly Australia's highest-profiled scientist, Dr Karl (Winner of an IgNobel Prize (studying belly-button lint :D) and the Australian Skeptics' "Skeptic of the Year 2006-7" has written a piece on Psychic Sleuths in his weekly Science page, "Great Moments in Science".

I've always had an uncanny feeling about the use of psychics as detectives. For one thing, there are so many reports about psychics successfully helping law enforcement agencies solve crimes. For another thing, there are all those TV shows that involve psychic sleuths. But when I finally roused myself to look at this topic thoroughly, I found it was all froth and bubble.
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::Bumpity bump::

I did distribute 300 more Personal ID Kits downtown yesterday. Not the official ones, the ones I made.
 
After almost one year and three months is this thread dead? It is one of the biggest threads on this forum no matter how you measure it. Also one of the most educational. One that goes to the core of what this forum represents.

Edit. Kelly has gone AWOL from this forum as well.
 
Kelly pops in when she can, but she is busy with the podcast series, on top of the other projects ongoing from Project Jason.

I believe she is still looking for volunteers, so if you can give her a little time, I know she will appreciate it.
 
Too funny.

Expand the the Chill avatar into a downloadable .jpg , then we can talk.
 
Thanks for the bumps, support, and kits!

For those who follow what we're working on:

Dear Families, Supporters, and Friends of Project Jason,

We are pleased to announce that we have begun to provide law enforcement (LE) training by professional instructors, available in the form of audio files. These audio files can be accessed 24 hours a day on the website of our podcast partner, the Missing People Podcast. There is no charge to utilize this training.

We began our ongoing series with a 4-part program about DNA and CODIS as it pertains to solving missing persons cases. As you know, it is critical that LE make use of the available technologies and systems in place. Obtaining DNA samples from the family members of missing persons (or DNA from the missing persons themselves) in an attempt to match them to DNA from unidentified remains is one method of finding the answers about our missing loves ones, resolving cold cases, and solving crimes.

Our guests for the DNA training are Dr. Arthur Eisenberg and George Adams from the Center for Human Identification (CHI) at North Texas University. Dr. Eisenberg pioneered much of today's DNA testing protocol and is one of the world's leading DNA scientists. "First and foremost, there never should be a human remain, a skeletal remain of anyone's loved one that would be buried or cremated without the retention of a DNA sample for analysis. If those samples are in CODIS, there's always a chance." Dr. Eisenberg stated.

George Adams is the LE liaison for the CHI, has many years of law enforcement experience and regularly conducts training for the CHI. "Once you enter a sample into CODIS, you're not working within your jurisdiction, you're working within the jurisdictions of everyone entering samples into CODIS", said George Adams. "You are bringing in so much power into your investigation. It is explosive. If we can get everyone to do this, these samples will be matched, they will be made, and the sooner we match them the sooner the law enforcement can identify who the perpetrator is, and take him off the streets."

More detailed biographies along with the audio training files can be found on the Law Enforcement Briefing Link at http://www.missingpeoplepodcast.com Each audio segment is approximately 30 minutes long.


Topics covered in the training:

History and types of DNA

Best practices for obtaining DNA samples

CODIS and State Databases

Importance of Chain of Custody

CHI Services

The nationwide crisis and the need for these processes to become standard procedure

While this information will be helpful for the families of the missing and organizations which serve them, the main goal is to disseminate this information to LE. You may feel free to forward this email to all interested persons. For families of the missing and organizations which serve them, all 4 parts will be of interest, but there are several messages of hope and encouragement in the last section. Working together, we can accomplish so much. There is always hope!

If you have a missing loved one, and do not have either their DNA in CODIS or yours, Part II discusses steps for you, and then your LE, to take.

Quick technical tips for playing audio files:

Double-clicking on the audio file on the site will download it to your PC. It may begin to play nearly immediatetely, or may take several minutes to download, depending upon which audio players you have on your PC and how you have them set up.

You can also download the files to a MP-3 player or an IPOD.

Note: Persons using dial-up internet may encounter difficulties in playing the files. For additional audio file help, please email publisher@lumospub.com

Direct links to the audio files:

Part I: http://www.lumospub.com/images/Center_for_Human_ID_1_missingpeoplepodcast.mp3
Part II: http://www.lumospub.com/images/Center_for_Human_ID_2_missingpeoplepodcast.mp3
Part III: http://www.lumospub.com/images/Center_for_Human_ID_3_missingpeoplepodcast.mp3
Part IV: http://www.lumospub.com/images/Center_for_Human_ID_4_missingpeoplepodcast.mp3

Direct link for the biographies and CHI contact information for LE: http://www.lumospub.com/lawenforcementbriefing/dnaidentitylaboratory.html

We will add more LE training on a regular basis covering a variety of topics. Please check back and forward this notice to interested persons, including law enforcement.

Don't forget, families of the missing can share their stories on the podcast, so if you are interested, please let me know, and we can schedule an interview.

Kelly Jolkowski, Mother of Missing Jason Jolkowski
President and Founder,
Project Jason
http://www.projectjason.org
Read our Voice for the Missing Blog
http://voice4themissing.blogspot.com/
 
I still occasionally get letters from psychics. Most of the time, they are not attempting to "help" me. I find it amazing that they don't research who they send their nonsense to. I quickly show them the blog link and the door. I tell them to go to LE if they're confident in their "powers". I am confident they don't.

As to the major TV show, I am beginning to think it will never happen. The psychic they confronted threatened me and threatened them. (off camera)

The last I heard, they were writing the script. I'll check back with them in a couple of weeks.

How disappointing, again. If it never airs, the psychic won. :(
 
Kelly said:
As to the major TV show, I am beginning to think it will never happen. The psychic they confronted threatened me and threatened them. (off camera)

The last I heard, they were writing the script. I'll check back with them in a couple of weeks.

How disappointing, again. If it never airs, the psychic won. :(
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Please do keep us posted on this, Kelly.
 
Maybe you can do something to encourage the TV station to do the broadcast and include the threats to show what sort of person he is. Could make the show even better with the threats - 'The show the psychics did not to be shown.'

What have you done about the threats?

Edit - Glad you are back in this thread making long posts.
 
Thanks all. I will keep you posted.

I have done nothing about the threats.

This show is a very big show. They will do what they're going to do. I have discussed this with them and even sent them the transcript of the phone call with this person. (done by memory)
 
Kelly,
I'm new here but I just had to tell you that my heart goes out to you and I will keep you in my daily thoughts forever.
Alot of people walk around blissfully never realizing that they're just as vulnerable as the people they hear about on the news and meet through forums such as this.
As a mother of a beautiful, confident teenage daughter, I work diligently against the rolling eyes and the claims that I'm being over-protective knowing that, at times, there may be little I can do if there is a predator around, but I will never stop trying to protect her.
She will read your site and I will do all I can do including the things you mention on your site.

TruthBeTold
 
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