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[Moderated]175 did NOT hit the South tower.

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malcolm kirkman said:
You astutely refuse to compare your scenario to mine.
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That's because your senario is fiction and you demand that our senario account for things that aren't even close to in evidence merely because you demand that they should be accounted for.

I do not accept that my objections have fallen flat.
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Well I guess some people like to live in their own little deluded worlds.


You have all singularily failed to involve airport security, save to say that they would allow GPS and boxcutters on board without a backward glance.
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Airport security stopped all but one of the Hijackers because they were carrying boxcutters, but since it wasn't prohibited they were let through. Why do you think that they should have done something when there was no prohibitation against carry such items on a plane?


You know very well that the supposed hijackers couldn't fly a kite.
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You mean the same hijackers who all gain FAA Commercial Pilot licences and who their trainers have said that while they weren't the best pilots and had trouble communicating, they could have easily pointed the planes in the right direction and hit the buildings?

You have spent all this time testing my mettle. Whatever best scenario you can come up with, will be fraught with if's, but's and maybe's.
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You mean unlike your IF there were romote controlled planes, and IF there were bombs and IF no one would talk and IF....


Finally you steadfastly refuse to place yourself in the judges seat. No one with a modicum of intelligence would want civilians queering the scene, in real life.
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I have already judged the evidence and the evidence says that there were 19 hijackers who took over and flew 4 planes flying three into buildings and crashing one into a field.

It's your country that's getting slowly strangled. You that are on the road from freedom to fascism.
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No it's not, see that little flag flying in my sig?

Maybe you're all neocon gatekeepers eh. If so, you're only delaying the inevitable.
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Ohh... so if I don't agree with you then I must be a US Government agent? Gee this thread is going to come in handy faster then I thought. Try reading it to see my opinion on American.
 
malcolm kirkman said:
What's on fire, concrete and steel?
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You do know that office buildings contain far more then concrete and steel, right?

malcolm kirkman said:
What would such a hijacker say, when he was about to die?
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Most Islamic Martyers appear to say something along the lines of "Allah Akbar" or "God is Good"

malcolm kirkman said:
How silly of me. 9/11 never happened. Let's all go back to sleep.
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So the only options you are willing to consider is that it either never happened at allm or it happened your way? Just a tad close-minded no?

malcolm kirkman said:
All that pulverised concrete?
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Most of the dust was gypsum from the office walls. The next most common material was glass from the ceiling tiles and windows. I believe concrete came in 3rd place.

malcolm kirkman said:
Do you, or do you not, agree that the twins and WTC7, were brought down by controlled demolition?
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No I don't agree.

malcolm kirkman said:
How can a fact be incorrect?
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When it's not a fact but an unsupported claim.
 
Marquis de Carabas said:
Anyone want to link me to where my plan gets shot down in flames by malcolm? I seem to have missed it.
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He thinks that it's not valid unless you can account for the possiblity of the plane missing the building and revealing the bombs in it, ignoring that there is ZERO evidence of bombs in the buildings.
 
malcolm kirkman said:
Do you, or do you not, agree that the twins and WTC7, were brought down by controlled demolition?
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The towers and the WTC7 fell due to impact damage and fire. Wrong again for you.

BTW, the terrorist could use a VOR to navigate to NYC. They would tune in a VOR, LGA at 113.1 frequency and fly to the arrow until they see the WTC towers from 20 miles away (or closer, LGA is only 8 miles away). If you would learn to fly, you could do it. Flying is easy for most, finding facts for you seems the big problem.
 
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malcolm kirkman said:
How can a fact be incorrect?
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Because if a statement isn't true, it isn't a fact.
All facts are true and correct. That is the sole meaning of "fact."

You're one of those kids who doesn't know that "false fact" is an oxymoron, right?

Look: It is a fact that Berlin is the capitol of Oklahoma.

See? Not a fact.
 
beachnut said:
The towers and the WTC7 fell due to impact damage and fire. Wrong again for you.

BTW, the terrorist could use a VOR to navigate to NYC. They would tune in a VOR, LGA at 113.1 frequency and fly to the arrow until they see the WTC towers from 20 miles away (or closer, LGA is only 8 miles away). If you would learn to fly, you could do it. Flying is easy for most, finding facts for you seems the big problem.
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WTC 7 fell due to impact damage?
What hit it, a strong wind?
 
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