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architects and engineers for truth, population 1

The website is now fully launched.

On their frontpage they link to 5 technical articles. 2 are written by Jim Hoffman, a computer engineer. 1 is written by David Ray Griffin, a theologian. Other two are some unknowns.

They also list, why they suspect controlled demolition. These reasons include this gem:

"Fore-knowledge of “collapse” by media, NYPD, FDNY"

Is he (Gage) accusing the NYPD and FDNY?

The other reasons are like straight from the 9/11 Mysteries. What a site that is. Another woo.

http://www.ae911truth.org/
 
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You can't make this stuff up:

About WTC7:
“Collapses” into its own footprint – with the steel skeleton broken up for shipment

About WTC1+2:

1,400 foot diameter field of equally distributed debris – outside of building footprint

So, no matter where the debris lands, it is obviously a sign of demolition.

I also notice that pyroclastic flows still ride.

:nope:Hans:nope:
 
Most of the members are from the east bay of the San Francisco Bay area. Don't know what to make of that.

They are already hawking trinkets and have a forum.

Who will be the first to be banned? Oliver should start work on a special badge now.
 
Any guesses on their (unseen as of yet) banning policy? I couldn't find a list of rules for the forum - did one show up when you registered?
Who reads the fine print? (It looked like standard forum boilerplate.)
 
Avery's not the least bit bitter

Dylan Avery:
It's only a matter of time before Mark sends Richard and his associates an open letter.

I'd love to be in the offices of someone like Danny Jowenko when they get an e-mail from a nobody in NYC telling them they're wrong about their +20 years of experience.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=9992&st=0&#last

Funny how the 'truthers' can't seem to find the money to get Jowenko over to the states for a national tour promoting their beliefs. I mean, they put so much stock in what he says, you'd think they might actually consider linking up with him...even for a fee. :D
 
And of course pdoh has already signed in the forum too :D
 
Who reads the fine print? (It looked like standard forum boilerplate.)

I always read the fine print -that's where the interesting stuff usually is (as a Class 2 NWO operative, I try to sneak in FEMA death camp certifications into fine print, so watch out).

Good - they've not thought to put the CT disclaimer in about questioning wacky theories, then.
 
I see forum membership is now at 11. It's growing quite quickly, but I really wonder if it will be anything different than the usual meeting grounds of skeptics and truthers, or if we will just be recycling the claims made over the last five years yet again.
 
I see forum membership is now at 11. It's growing quite quickly, but I really wonder if it will be anything different than the usual meeting grounds of skeptics and truthers, or if we will just be recycling the claims made over the last five years yet again.

It's folks from here and LCF I suppose. Same guys, different arena. But the site itself put up by Gage is one of the worst recyclers of all old claims. Richard Gage was introduced to truther world when he read Griffin. And he uses old claims like Griffin. And so on..
 
It's folks from here and LCF I suppose. Same guys, different arena. But the site itself put up by Gage is one of the worst recyclers of all old claims. Richard Gage was introduced to truther world when he read Griffin. And he uses old claims like Griffin. And so on..

Yes - when I said "we" I meant "them". We'll be recycling our responses.

Why is it that every time someone finds a CT site (or a CTer like Griffin) they have to ask the same questions/comments? Why can't they do a little research on their own first before bringing their newfound knowledge to an internet forum?
 
Their introduction is amusing.

http://www.ae911truth.org/info/4

Chapters 2 & 3:

Architects and Engineers are trained to design buildings that function well and withstand potentially destructive forces. However, the 3 high-rise buildings at the World Trade Center which "collapsed" on 9/11 (the Twin Towers plus WTC Building #7) presented us with a body evidence (i.e.controlled demolition) that was clearly outside the scope of our training and experience.


In addition, the shock that hit us on that date from the repeated attacks and staggering loss of life has limited our ability to rationally evaluate what really happened. We therefore found ourselves relying solely upon the judgment of outside "experts"...


Chapter 6:

It lays out a solid convincing case which architects & engineers will readily see: that the 3 WTC high-rise buildings were destroyed by both classic and novel forms of controlled demolition.
Did I miss something? Didn't he just say they don't know anything about controlled demolitions? Didn't he just say the ability to rationally evaluate what happened is limited? And didn't he immediately after that say, that there is a solid convincing case, this was indeed a controlled demolition!

If logic is missing somewhere, it's missing right here folks.
 
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http://ae911truth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7#7

:eek: That would be really scary if I could understand what he meant.

Still, he got a plug in for the JREF, so at least he serves one useful purpose.:D

And medicis writes:

"Mr. Roberts has become well known on other 9/11-related sites for exhibiting behaviors (such as derision, out-right falsification / making-up of "facts" and endless ad hominem attacks) that have led many to label him 'shill', 'disinfo', and 'troll'. "



The psychological projection and irony of that statement is like a punch in the face.....
 
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