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I'm seriously freaked out.

Shannon made it safe to Idaho today. There was apparently hardly any traffic on the road at all, and she seemed to enjoy her trip. I am very relieved that she made it safe. I'm not going to totally breathe easy though, because she still has a trip to make home on Sunday, and then the following weekend she will be driving to a city approx. 160 miles away for the weekend. After that, the two weeks will be over and I will be able to happily stick my foot in my mouth.

I guess I can't say that I'm a total disbeliever. You're right, Joe. I eat up any ghost story fed to me. I seem think that coincidences and weird things that happen (they seem to happen to me a lot) are part of some twisted, supernatural plot against me. I guess 'paranoid' is the right word to describe me. I've been extremely unhappy living this way, and when this 'prophecy' or whatever you want to call it doesn't come true, I think it's going to help me a lot to think more realistically about these claims when they are made.
 
And no, I'm not making her a sex buddy. Although one time when we were drinking, I made out with her for about ten seconds in front of our friends (kind of a dare-type thing.) Needless to say, I don't care to do it again.

We know, you're gay. some people here have short or selective memories.
 
Hi, Knot. I'd appreciate if you keep your snarky little comments to yourself. Don't think you're better than me in any respect, because you're not. And the fact that you feel you have to post those comments in someone's thread is what I would call 'pathetic.'

And that comment about selective memories? What was that about? I don't think I've broadcasted the fact that I'm gay on this site very much; in fact, I never even brought it up in this thread, someone else did. When I mentioned the part about Shannon and I, I wasn't trying to say I was gay, I was relating an experience with her. I wasn't trying to say, "Oh my god, I'm gay, don't you remember??!!" So get off your high horse.
 
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I asked Sara tonight if she has had the dreams about other people; she says she hasn't, only about those that died, and that the dreams don't happen very often. She did name the specific people, all of which I didn't know. I don't remember all the names offhand (one of them was named Erik, who was her ex.) I could ask her though and find some evidence, maybe through newspapers.

It's just got me a little freaked out...my best friend tells me that she thinks she'll die in an auto accident, and then someone totally different has that dream about her after dreaming about other people in auto accidents. Should I be thinking about slashing her tires so she can't drive right about now?

I'm surprised by some of these replies. This is a skeptical site -- slash her tires and you are a criminal, a fool and a bad friend. Dreams have limited use to the dreamer and have no predictive value to third parties. I know what its like to have to spend $550 replacing four tires that were slashed and you don't smile when you write that check -- well maybe I did once...

Once I dated a divorced woman with a young daughter whose ex-husband stalked her. After our second date it was awkward if I stayed over but I was uncomfortable having her daughter see me the next morning so I thought it best I go home. I left to discover her ex-husband slashed all four of my tires and since it was 11:30PM I had no choice but stay over at his ex's home until I could call a tire shop the next morning. I wouldn't have spent the night if my car was able to get me home. He was an ass. Don't you be an ass and slash her tires. Slashing tires never is good.
 
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Hi, Knot. I'd appreciate if you keep your snarky little comments to yourself. Don't think you're better than me in any respect, because you're not. And the fact that you feel you have to post those comments in someone's thread is what I would call 'pathetic.'

And that comment about selective memories? What was that about? I don't think I've broadcasted the fact that I'm gay on this site very much; in fact, I never even brought it up in this thread, someone else did. When I mentioned the part about Shannon and I, I wasn't trying to say I was gay, I was relating an experience with her. I wasn't trying to say, "Oh my god, I'm gay, don't you remember??!!" So get off your high horse.


I'm not better? I'm not a dream drama queen bringing his drama over to this board - thinking about slashing someone's tires over somebody's dream - that's pathetic and criminal and..................................................................stupid.

When I originally said pathetic and my comments now, I mean that towards the argument.
 
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I'm not going to slash her tires. I'm too chicken to do that. Plus, if I was going to do it I would have done it already, so it's a non-issue.

And Knot, no, you're not better than an I am. Are you saying you've never done anything stupid? Or been frightened at all by anything? Please, if you're just gonna post replies here to make me look bad, don't even bother posting. I wouldn't have done the same in of your threads.
 
I'm not going to slash her tires. I'm too chicken to do that. Plus, if I was going to do it I would have done it already, so it's a non-issue.

And Knot, no, you're not better than an I am. Are you saying you've never done anything stupid? Or been frightened at all by anything? Please, if you're just gonna post replies here to make me look bad, don't even bother posting. I wouldn't have done the same in of your threads.

If being "chicken" is the only reason holding you back from slashing tires then yeah, I am better than you.

I have done stupid things but I haven't even thought about the incredibly stupid things I've read in this thread.

I'm still scared of bees. (tangible)

I'm not trying to make you look bad, only your choice to believe are bad - for you and your friends. If it can drive you to think about committing a crime and to get you to "seriously freak out" then maybe you should reconsider your choice to believe in such nonsense.
 
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If being "chicken" is the only reason holding you back from slashing tires then yeah, I am better than you.

I have done stupid things but I haven't even thought about the incredibly stupid things I've read in this thread.

I'm still scared of bees. (tangible)

knot, snarky is too generous a term for you. You are mean-spirited. I picked on a potential behavior I didn't approve of because of experience; you are name calling. This forum is above that. I don't believe in dreams but I will defend the right of someone to write about them without being called gay (in a bad way) or pathetic.

My excuse is I wanted to tell my little story of having my tires slashed. What excuse do you have for being an ass?


JP1283, I thought at first you were a troll, but I think now you are sincere. If you asked the same questions at a woo site you would be given suggestions that I'm sure involve throwing salt over your shoulder and similar things. I believe dreams may be beneficial to the person who has them but for no one else. I'm new to this site but I know this site isn't about being disrespectful. knot is not representative of this site.
 
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JP, trust me when I say that your life will be much more satisfying and relaxing once you've embraced critical thinking and skepticism. Next time Sara and Shannon entertain you with their future tales of gloom and doom, you can laugh heartily and then calmly explain things to them like confirmation bias. Plus the fact that if these powers really existed Mr. Randi would be $1 million lighter.

Most people believe in this nonsense because of the warm fuzzies but it seems to me that it's causing you nothing but grief and stress.

I think some people here should be a little nicer to you. I was under the assumption that the "E" in JREF meant that we are to show the believers the errors of their ways with the use of common sense, rationality and facts. I know some people are beyond hope but you having the nerve to post here in the first place shows that you are willing to get advice from us and maybe change your views. It's pretty hard to change your entire way of thinking, but you are off to a good start, as long as you take the friendly advice offered here.

Us skeptics are always crying for evidence but if (big if) actual evidence were shoved under our noses one day, we'd likely have a hard time accepting it right away too.
 
If this dream (or any other) is prophetic, there is no point taking evasive action. What is predicted will occur, will occur.

If the predicted event does not occur, the dream was not prophetic.

You would, of course, have to run a decent series of trials to demonstrate that the same is true of all predictive dreams, but that is one of the safest bets I can imagine, alongside such bets as the sun will appear tomorrow.

If the event does occur, that is no evidence that the dream was prophetic.
 
knot, snarky is too generous a term for you. You are mean-spirited. I picked on a potential behavior I didn't approve of because of experience; you are name calling. This forum is above that. I don't believe in dreams but I will defend the right of someone to write about them without being called gay (in a bad way) or pathetic.

My excuse is I wanted to tell my little story of having my tires slashed. What excuse do you have for being an ass?


JP1283, I thought at first you were a troll, but I think now you are sincere. If you asked the same questions at a woo site you would be given suggestions that I'm sure involve throwing salt over your shoulder and similar things. I believe dreams may be beneficial to the person who has them but for no one else. I'm new to this site but I know this site isn't about being disrespectful. knot is not representative of this site.

I never said gay was bad - just reminding others that he wasn't interested in a "sex buddy" with a girl. Doesn't that make any freaking sense to you at all? Perhaps the word, "gay" is a mean spirited word in your book.

Thinking about slashing someone's tires, no matter the reason, is mean spirited and CRIMINAL and PATHETIC. Get real.

I think it is abundantly clear who the ass is. Yeah sure, pick on me when others tell the drama queen to go see a psychiatrist. You SEEM about as foolish as him.
 
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uh huh, go ahead and stick up for the criminal minded drama queen. It's never ok to even consider slashing/destroying someone's property (asinine)

You're right though, when it comes to some thought inducing criminal behavior or consideration, a "snarky" remark isn't strong enough.
 
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uh huh, go ahead and stick up for the criminal minded drama queen. It's never ok to even consider slashing/destroying someone's property (asinine)

You're right though, when it comes to some thought inducing criminal behavior or consideration, a "snarky" remark isn't strong enough.

knot, you have anger you need to find an appropriate place for. I'm guilty of occasionally misplacing anger on the Internet, but you must admit you are over the top wrong on this thread. JP1283 may be naive but attacking her personally is wrong. Attack what she writes, but don't call her names.
 
knot, you have anger you need to find an appropriate place for. I'm guilty of occasionally misplacing anger on the Internet, but you must admit you are over the top wrong on this thread. JP1283 may be naive but attacking her personally is wrong. Attack what she writes, but don't call her names.

You really are a case huh. Who said you can act like a mod?

I'm not attacking "her", just her beliefs leading to consider a criminal action. It's pathetic, foolish, criminal and did I say stupid? I'm done with your nonsense. You are set to be ignored so don't bother responding.

..and if he is a she they have a word created just to describe such an orientation for a woman: lesbian
 
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I think it is abundantly clear who the ass is. Yeah sure, pick on me when others tell the drama queen to go see a psychiatrist. You SEEM about as foolish as him.

I've never told anyone to go see a shrink to impugn them or hurt their feelings, only when they seem to need professional help. I believe he does, and if you'd read the whole thread you'd see my brief explanation why.

Personally, I agree with you that he's a drama queen, but you didn't see me calling him that publicly in a diminutive way, as you appear to have.

Knot, you are kinda mean-spirited.
 
I've never told anyone to go see a shrink to impugn them or hurt their feelings, only when they seem to need professional help. I believe he does, and if you'd read the whole thread you'd see my brief explanation why.

Personally, I agree with you that he's a drama queen, but you didn't see me calling him that publicly in a diminutive way, as you appear to have.

Knot, you are kinda mean-spirited.

I will tell a potential tire slasher/property destroyer (criminal) exactly what I think.

I think some of us know what the spaces imply so stop pretending to be i-n-n-o-c-e-n-t:

 
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Got ourselves a little forum version of the punisher here, eh? Tire slasher! Wipe out all crime!!
 

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