NIST doesnt release their computer models (now they've done it!)

Dr Adequate said:
You guys do love making stuff up, don't you?

Deutsche PhysikWP:

"There was little scientific core to Deutsche Physik — it was primarily reactionary in its scope, lashing out at modern physics and its practitioners. Ideologically, its key claim was that there was "national character" in science, a denial of the claim of science's universality and internationalism (it, like Nazi ideology, also identified "internationalism" as being synonymous with "Jewishness")."

In short, they were big believers, not in science, but in pseudoscience; not in experts, but in self-proclaimed experts.

Hmm ... remind you of anyone?
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My my!

Amazing how these Nazi fools with their pseudo science were able to embrace rocketry, jet fighters and nuclear power amongst other things.

I guess they just got lucky and the U.S. fascination and adulation of Nazi scientists after World War II was just a myth?

MM
 
Dr Adequate said:
You guys do love making stuff up, don't you?

Deutsche PhysikWP:

"There was little scientific core to Deutsche Physik — it was primarily reactionary in its scope, lashing out at modern physics and its practitioners. Ideologically, its key claim was that there was "national character" in science, a denial of the claim of science's universality and internationalism (it, like Nazi ideology, also identified "internationalism" as being synonymous with "Jewishness")."

In short, they were big believers, not in science, but in pseudoscience; not in experts, but in self-proclaimed experts.

Hmm ... remind you of anyone?
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I love how MMs source was the very words spoken at a Nazi Rally and yours was wikipedia.
 
NBachmann said:
I love how MMs source was the very words spoken at a Nazi Rally and yours was wikipedia.
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MM didn't provide as source.


Don't personalize things with insults. I've edited and removed it - please review your membership agreement about civility, and keep in mind that in this specific sub-forum, the agreement is being stringently enforced.
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I'm off to a BBQ, so see you all later for now. MM, I will not forget your likening me to a Nazi...it was uncalled for. The view I stated in the comment, is the view of many people, none of whom are like nazis. It was a cheap shot.

TAM
 
tabouere said:
We must stop thinking and believe.:confused:

Simulation is not a proof, especially when they don't know what was burning inside and the quantity of kerosene left in the building.

This model are for believer who want confort in what he believe.

If like Greening says the concrete was blown in little debris and dust..... When we know that more than 60% of the weight of the building is concrete..... It's raise a lot of question.
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Oh!! You're still here? Still in denial (looks like it but we can hope!!)?

OK people, let's move along, nothing to see here!!!:rolleyes:
 
Miragememories said:
Sorry I went over your head par.

Go read a few history books and then re-ask your question.

MM
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You said "The Nazi's were big believers in experts and a scientific answer for every question."

I replied "They were also firm believers in the idea that Berlin is in Germany. What’s your point?"

I cannot see how your comment about things going over my head and history books is relevant. Can you explain what you meant please?
 
T.A.M. said:
I'm off to a BBQ, so see you all later for now. MM, I will not forget your likening me to a Nazi...it was uncalled for. The view I stated in the comment, is the view of many people, none of whom are like nazis. It was a cheap shot.

TAM
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The Nazi's thought they were right.

The Nazi's thought they were good people.

If you could step back and take some perspective on your posts T.A.M. you might better understand.

MM
 
Miragememories said:
My my!

Amazing how these Nazi fools with their pseudo science were able to embrace rocketry, jet fighters and nuclear power amongst other things.

I guess they just got lucky and the U.S. fascination and adulation of Nazi scientists after World War II was just a myth?

MM
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Your statements are wrong because it was not the NAZIs that did the jets, the rockets, and BTW, they kicked out the Jews who did the best work in physics. Oops seems like NAZIs were idiots who burned books and killed people so they could burn more books. You are confused what Germans did vs what idiot NAZIs did.

You did remember their nuke program fizzled cause they did not condone free thinking or science, they were just NAZIs. Non thinking idiots who were NAZIs. What did NAZIs do but prefect the very propaganda now used by the 9/11 truth movement. Even the name is ironically, truth.
 
thaiboxerken said:
And generating computer models is free too? Do you think those people work for free? Is $58 bucks too much for you to pay to have your delusions shattered?
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Tax dollars have already paid for that work. Do you like paying for things twice?
 
Miragememories said:
The Nazi's thought they were right.

The Nazi's thought they were good people.

If you could step back and take some perspective on your posts T.A.M. you might better understand.
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Out of interest, why do you think you’re immune to this potential pitfall? Why do you think you’re the one that is right and good while we (or, more specifically, TAM) are the deluded Nazi-like ones?
 
NBachmann said:
Tax dollars have already paid for that work. Do you like paying for things twice?
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Yes, I'd rather have that extra cost an optional tax than to have my taxes raised to provide you with a free model. If the "truth" is what you really want, then $58 isn't that much to pay for it. But I'm pretty sure the "truth" isn't really what you want.
 
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