NIST doesnt release their computer models (now they've done it!)

[Dr Adequate]

Fire is hot.

 

[Dr Adequate]

Scale models are really useful.

Look!

 

[Miragememories]

NIST is a govt affiliated organization. Govt charges for things all the time. The models were created using custom made software in some cases, and there is probably some fee associated with reproduction costs of the models.

Ask them.

TAM

The Models would be files.

The parent application is the only thing that should require purchase!

MM

 

[Miragememories]

I do not blame them for questioning what they do not understand...I blame them for ignorantly continuing to believe the mistruths and pseudoscience, when they have had people who DO UNDERSTAND, show them the difference.

TAM

I believe I heard the very same words spoken at a Nazi party rally in 1936.

MM

 

[Slayhamlet]

I believe I heard the very same words spoken at a Nazi party rally in 1936.

MM

You were at a Nazi party rally in 1936?

Explains a lot.

 

[Miragememories]

You were at a Nazi party rally in 1936?

Explains a lot.

Believe it or not they recorded such events on film back then.

If I had been there, I would have been one of the persecuted.

The Nazi's were big believers in experts and a scientific answer for every question.

MM

 

[DavidJames]

The Nazi's were big believers in experts and a scientific answer for every question.

MM

and I suppose when your team has no experts and scientific answers, invoking Godwin's law is all you've got.

 

[thaiboxerken]

My point is really simple, but believers(the people who always insult peeps who don't believe what they believe) can't understand it.

We know you point is. We don't agree just.

NIST model is theory, speculation based on simulation and "law of physics" not fact or proof.

Law of physics not fact? You drinky to muchy boozy.

And powder and little rocks don't bring down building.

If building turn to little rock and powder it still stand tall?

 

[Par]

The Nazi's were big believers in experts and a scientific answer for every question.
MM

They were also firm believers in the idea that Berlin is in Germany. What’s your point?

 

[Slayhamlet]

Believe it or not they recorded such events on film back then.

Then surely you have an audio clip of "the very same words spoken" at this Nazi rally?

If I had been there, I would have been one of the persecuted.

I bet you're a big fan of The American Free Press, too.

The Nazis were big believers in experts and a scientific answer for every question.

MM

Let's ignore experts because MM says Nazis were big believers in experts!

 

[beachnut]

I believe I heard the very same words spoken at a Nazi party rally in 1936.

MM

I think your statement missed the point and is wrong at the same time.

 

[Dr Adequate]

I do not blame them for questioning what they do not understand...I blame them for ignorantly continuing to believe the mistruths and pseudoscience, when they have had people who DO UNDERSTAND, show them the difference.

I believe I heard the very same words spoken at a Nazi party rally in 1936.

The Nazi's were big believers in experts and a scientific answer for every question.

You guys do love making stuff up, don't you?

Deutsche Physik^WP:

"There was little scientific core to Deutsche Physik — it was primarily reactionary in its scope, lashing out at modern physics and its practitioners. Ideologically, its key claim was that there was "national character" in science, a denial of the claim of science's universality and internationalism (it, like Nazi ideology, also identified "internationalism" as being synonymous with "Jewishness")."

In short, they were big believers, not in science, but in pseudoscience; not in experts, but in self-proclaimed experts.

Hmm ... remind you of anyone?

 

[Miragememories]

and I suppose when your team has no experts and scientific answers, invoking Godwin's law is all you've got.

Back to a juvenile "yes' "no" "yes" "no" response!

MM

 

[Miragememories]

They were also firm believers in the idea that Berlin is in Germany. What’s your point?

Sorry I went over your head par.

Go read a few history books and then re-ask your question.

MM

 

[Miragememories]

I think your statement missed the point and is wrong at the same time.

?? But you always feel that way beachnut.

Please clarify your statement since I'm sure I was right on the money.

MM

 

[T.A.M.]

Back to a juvenile "yes' "no" "yes" "no" response!

MM

you liken me to a nazi, and then accuse others of juvenile behaviour. Better juvenile that inflammatory and defamatory like your comment.

TAM

 

[Slayhamlet]

Back to a juvenile "yes' "no" "yes" "no" response!

MM

You're right, his response was much more juvenile than you irrelevantly invoking Naziism as an argument.

 

[NBachmann]

The Models would be files.

The parent application is the only thing that should require purchase!

MM

Yes it would cost exactly zero to provide these files to people. They could do it online and instantaneously.

 

[T.A.M.]

do either of you know if (a) this is what the person who paid the $58 asked for (files only) or (b) if that is what he/she actually recieved?

TAM

 

[Slayhamlet]

?? But you always feel that way beachnut.

Please clarify your statement since I'm sure I was right on the money.

MM

Where's that adio clip, MM? I know enough German to be able to translate such a statement.