Jesus created Sex

[Paulhoff]

1) Which chromosomal pair represents the human female gender, XX or XY?

2) Which of the following use sexual reproduction techniques:

Boa Constrictors
Tiger lilies
Humans
Puffball mushrooms
Ridley's sea turtles
Mildew
Portugese Man-O-War jellyfish
Maple trees
Very small rocks

3) How many sexes are represented in the natural world (1? 2? 3? More?)?

4) In the human reproductive cycle, which happens first, implantation or fertilization?

5) Which of the following exists mainly as a single-stranded molecule, RNA or DNA?

6. Is the cigarette smoked before or after sex, that is of course if you smoke cigarettes.

Paul

 

[fuelair]

Actually Dustin, my last pen name or Bible Name is Jordan, as in Jordan River.

It meaning 'descending judgment' as the Jordan is a place of judgment and crossing as we cross back through it in the End Time.

Jay is just short for Jordan, or my full Bible name of Jordan Fisherman.

David is my real first name, and just means 'beloved', at least by my beloved wife and kids and some others, and by our Beloved Lord'

Oops my mistake, been saying Jurgens when I mentioned last name for you (loose with names I don't care about) and given the topic of the thread assumed there was an obvious reason you liked/used it given it's theoretical lubricating qualities.

 

[bruto]

This is Dave from Phoenix's words, but he allowed me to put them on line with his permission.

I differ slightly with them but its a good start for defining fornication properly.

(snipped for economy)

So your argument is that the common biblical translation is incorrect, and that the Bible either condones or ignores extra-marital sex. I think that's a hard assertion to support, but at least it's responsive to my question.

By the way, I did not say that the Bible is a mystery, I said it's a mess. There's a difference.

I have no intention or interest in starting an anti-Paul thread, because the contention that Paul was not "of the Lord" when he went on about sex suggests that he was in some way "of the Lord" when he did not, or could have been, had he been better tuned in. I don't agree.

Feel free to start a thread about Paul's unhealthy attitude toward sex. I am confident that if you keep it on topic and don't indulge in gratuitous insults to all comers, it will remain undeleted, as have so many of the other threads you've started. Martyrdom is a poor fit on you.

 

[RandFan]

I would win another argument...

You can't win a contest that you won't enter. You have no argument.

 

[ReligionStudent]

DJJ, I long ago analyzed and discarded your "lord". I have no fear, no barriers and I do not live a sheltered existence, unlike people who refuse to actually take the time to learn and understand about evolution through natural selection.

I do not rant against your "lord" for me that concept is a non-starter, completely meaningless. I have no need for an imaginary sky-daddy.

I broke down the barriers put up by religion long ago and discarded fear. I broke down the barriers long ago and discarded ignorance. I broke down the barriers long ago and embraced skepticism and doubt. I live a healthy & happy existence.

You make unsubstantiated assertions here. There is no proof that Jesus created sex. You have not supported that in any way. Remember words from a musty old book written by men are NOT proof.

Evolution on the other hand has much support. Much evidence provided by many sciences. Much evidence that shows that this is the best answer to how we got here from earlier life forms.

Sex existed before humans DJJ and if you had paid attention in class you would know that too. You however, do not want to acknowledge that because it might shake your faith. You are a coward. How weak is your faith that it will not stand up to examination.

Do it like they do on the Discovery Channel

 

[dglas]

You are a liar. Who is the father of all lies?

Dude! You are calling for internal consistency? From "Sin is not sin if *I* like it" Djj?

He's a salad bar ethical egoist.

 

[fuelair]

Dude! You are calling for internal consistency? From "Sin is not sin if *I* like it" Djj?

He's a salad bar ethical egoist.

I think he's a few veggies short of a salad bar .

Do not use personal attacks. Argue the point, not the poster.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

 

[ReligionStudent]

DJJ has now started posting on http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2540267#post2540267 With the same basic idea, and bringing up the holy spirit thing again. I guess he things he needs to find another audience, since he cannot "teach" us.

 

[Paulhoff]

Do not use personal attacks. Argue the point, not the poster.

The ideal world that would be.............

Paul



Back to live in the city................

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Surely you have not had any experiences to add to this thread, just denials of Jesus and Sex.

And do notice only once did the moderators step in and tell the defamers to stop personal attacks. This thread is about Jesus and Sex, not your personal attacks against me.

Call my message a lie, rather than trying to label me a liar. Follow the RULES.

Stick to the message. But then if you have had no personal experiences, how can you.

People can not have sex for you, you have to experience it yourself.

Sex may be started by words, but it is not just words, you have to experience it.... to know its truths.

You have to go beyond the doubts and fears of entering in, and eventually just do it.

Sitting on the sidelines complaining about those enetering in, and whine and deny that it is good and beneficial just doesn't work.

Sex is not in the mind, you have to experience it

 

[neon]

So Jesus created sex, but he supposedly wants you to get married first--so he created sex so you could have weddings?

Also, if Jesus created sex, why did he go through the trouble of making himself born without sex? Isn't that setting a bad example?

 

[Paulhoff]

So Jesus created sex, but he supposedly wants you to get married first--so he created sex so you could have weddings?

Also, if Jesus created sex, why did he go through the trouble of making himself born without sex? Isn't that setting a bad example?

Yea, him being so pure and all, because of a virgin birth, go figure.

Paul

 

[ReligionStudent]

Surely you have not had any experiences to add to this thread, just denials of Jesus and Sex.

And do notice only once did the moderators step in and tell the defamers to stop personal attacks. This thread is about Jesus and Sex, not your personal attacks against me.

Call my message a lie, rather than trying to label me a liar. Follow the RULES.

Stick to the message. But then if you have had no personal experiences, how can you.

People can not have sex for you, you have to experience it yourself.

Sex may be started by words, but it is not just words, you have to experience it.... to know its truths.

You have to go beyond the doubts and fears of entering in, and eventually just do it.

Sitting on the sidelines complaining about those enetering in, and whine and deny that it is good and beneficial just doesn't work.

Sex is not in the mind, you have to experience it

Yes but none of this changes the facts:

Jesus 4 BC (roughly)

Mankind 200K YA

humans!= asexual

Therefore sex before Jesus.

 

[Hokulele]

So you want to know how sex could evolve? I think we should first start with the basics, and find out how much you already know. So, here is a simple quiz.

DJJ, please take this quiz so I can determine how best to address your question. I tried once earlier in this thread, but you demonstrated that you had no idea what I was talking about, so I want to make sure I don't go over your head again. Here we go:

1) Which chromosomal pair represents the human female gender, XX or XY?

2) Which of the following use sexual reproduction techniques:

Boa Constrictors
Tiger lilies
Humans
Puffball mushrooms
Ridley's sea turtles
Mildew
Portugese Man-O-War jellyfish
Maple trees
Very small rocks

3) How many sexes are represented in the natural world (1? 2? 3? More?)?

4) In the human reproductive cycle, which happens first, implantation or fertilization?

5) Which of the following exists mainly as a single-stranded molecule, RNA or DNA?

This isn't a complete quiz, but at least it gives me an idea of your level of understanding basic biology. I will address your evolution question once you have taken this quiz.

Bump.

 

[strathmeyer]

Surely you have not had any experiences to add to this thread, just denials of Jesus and Sex.

Are you going to change our sig now that you have made it perfectly clear in your personal correspondence with me that you have no intentions of teaching others about Jesus, but just want to ridicule and ostracize them in private?

 

[RandFan]

Surely you have not had any experiences to add to this thread, just denials of Jesus and Sex.

I don't deny sex.

Sex is not in the mind, you have to experience it

World — Population: 6,525,170,264 (July 2006 est.)


[SIZE=-1]According to https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/xx.html[/SIZE]

Somehow, I think that sex, is in fact, being experienced.

 

[bruto]

Surely you have not had any experiences to add to this thread, just denials of Jesus and Sex.

And do notice only once did the moderators step in and tell the defamers to stop personal attacks. This thread is about Jesus and Sex, not your personal attacks against me.

Call my message a lie, rather than trying to label me a liar. Follow the RULES.

Stick to the message. But then if you have had no personal experiences, how can you.

People can not have sex for you, you have to experience it yourself.

Sex may be started by words, but it is not just words, you have to experience it.... to know its truths.

You have to go beyond the doubts and fears of entering in, and eventually just do it.

Sitting on the sidelines complaining about those enetering in, and whine and deny that it is good and beneficial just doesn't work.

Sex is not in the mind, you have to experience it

I have not seen anybody here deny that sex is good and beneficial, and it's really pretty preposterous for you to suggest that disagreement with you implies in any way a lack of experience or of anything else except credulity for your bizarre notions. I simply disagree with your assertion that "Jesus created sex." You've done a very poor job of defending that assertion on its own merits, either with regard to biblical interpretation, religious tradition, evolutionary theory, or biology, without yourself attacking those who question it, with snide comments, irrelevant suggestions of nihilism, ignorance, inexperience and atheism, misreadings of posts, digressive attacks on avatars, names and presumed beliefs, misconstructions of texts, misreadings of posts, and laughably inept arguments against evolution. I won't tell you to get off your high horse, but be careful you don't fall off.

 

[RandFan]

Bump.

Dream on.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Surely you have not had any experiences to add to this thread, just denials of Jesus and Sex.

Disagreement with you as to the origin of sex is not a denial of the existence of sex.

And do notice only once did the moderators step in and tell the defamers to stop personal attacks. This thread is about Jesus and Sex, not your personal attacks against me.

Only once was it even remotely warranted. (To everyone else) Wasn't there at least one other incident of a mod telling someone to be more civil regarding a comment made to/about Djj?

Call my message a lie, rather than trying to label me a liar. Follow the RULES.

Calling you a liar sans evidence would be a personal attack. Speculating that you might be lying about certain claims based on available evidence is not a personal attack.

Stick to the message. But then if you have had no personal experiences, how can you.

No personal experiences of what? No personal experiences of any kind? That's utterly ridiculous. No personal experience of sex? This is an equally ridiculous statement.

People can not have sex for you, you have to experience it yourself.

Pornography.

Sex may be started by words, but it is not just words, you have to experience it.... to know its truths.

Legend has it that the Australian male starts it with the words "Brace yourself Sheila!"

You have to go beyond the doubts and fears of entering in, and eventually just do it.

Been doing it for some time now. Are you really laboring under the assumption that you alone, among the participants in this thread, have experienced sex?

Sitting on the sidelines complaining about those enetering in, and whine and deny that it is good and beneficial just doesn't work.

What are you on about?

Sex is not in the mind, you have to experience it

Ermmm... Isn't experience something that happens in the mind? That is to say, when I have sex am I not consciously experiencing it in my mind?

 

[Hokulele]

Dream on.

Yeah, I know. I just keep hoping he'll take the bait as the answers could be rather funny. After the way he "responded" to my post regarding DNA, anything could happen.