Perhaps I should have another try...
Could either of you perhaps show me where I have said on here that I could provide proof for psychic phenomena?
This is the problem; you read a question, misunderstand it, post a reply, read two responses to that and still misunderstand the question. It appears, even if it is not true, that you are deliberately refusing to answer any questions about claims and statements you make.
This is not a simple misunderstanding between two posters; at least three of us have tried repeatedly to help you understand the nature of the problem, without any results.
Reporting events, testimonies and referring to other peoples’ experiences, is not quite the same thing
If all you did was report hearsay and 3
rd party statements as such, we wouldn't ask you personally for proof; we might, however ask you why you believed these reports or if there was any evidence available.
You might be able to measure the electrical ‘waves’ or impulses of the brain Cuddles, but that is not what I meant.
If it's not what you mean, don't say it. This, at the risk of stirring up your anti-precision ire again, goes back to the use of the correct words to convey the intended meaning.
Can you please point me in the direction of any material machine that can display the actual ‘visual’ picture that is being ‘seen’ by the dreamer.
There you go with
material again, it's not a designator of oppressive skepticism you know. If it is a machine in the sense you mean, it must be material.
As to the wonderful sci-fi Dream-O-Scope, no, you can't have one.
If you could understand this latter point more clearly, you might come a little closer to understanding what I meant!
Perhaps you could explain how there is a
latter point, your request for information you know to be non-existent is pointless.
Now, as for dreams, they are not real; I know someone who saw a one-eyed purple horse laying on his living room carpet, that wasn't real because he was on acid and hallucinating. When you dream, part of your brain is trying to make sense of the chaos from the cerebral cortex and the emotional signals from the amygdala, which means you have realistic, if disjointed, experiences. If you insist, they are real in that they exist as a description of the phenomena, nothing more.
There is no correlation between dreams and claims of the paranormal, we know when dreams happen and we can measure the signals being sent and the areas of the brain involved.
If the paranormal could be demonstrated, it would be one of your dreaded "
cold icy facts", would this make it less appealing? Does the interest come from romantic notions which would be ruined by reality? That would be fine, believe what you like in private, as long as you don't continue to make claims on sceptical discussion forum and refuse to even justify them.
*I am unusually tired, so this post may seem a little random.