Jesus created Sex

Ecco il mondo,
Vuoto e tondo,
S'alza, scende,
Balza e splende.
Fa carole intorno al sole,
Trema, rugge, dà e distrugge,
Ora sterile or fecondo.
Ecco il mondo.
Sul suo grosso
Antico dosso
V'è una schiatta
E sozza e matta,
Fiera, vile, ria, sottile,
Che ad ogn'ora si divora
Dalla cima sino al fondo
Del reo mondo.
Fola vana è a lei Satana,
Riso e scherno
E' a lei l'inferno,
Scherno e riso il Paradiso.
Oh per Dio!
Che or rido anch'io,
Oh per Dio! ecc.
Nel pensare ciò
Che le ascondo.
Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Ecco il mondo!​

Mefistofele - Arrigo Boito
 
Skeptic Guy said:
How do you have a discussion with someone like this? He is pulling stuff out of his...hat. Making it up out of whole cloth. I suppose if you can believe in something like angels or the Trinity, you can believe just about anything, but it makes it impossible to have a grounded and centered discussion about this kind of thing.
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the reason why most of you non brethren accuse me of pulling things from a hat, is because you are unprepared for anything and haven;t got a comprehensive doctrine. Your truths don;t mesh and so you are fragmented and disjointed. You would have to pull things out of your hat and other places to respond to your disjointed dementia.

But with the Lord, every truth connects up with other truths so that you gain ground and gain strength and wisdom rather than every new tid bit destroying what you have already learned.

Hence what I write has already been wrritten and learned long ago, I would give you my hyperlinks but you think I composed those pages just yesterday. And yet truths have to be learned one by one, precept upon precept as the prophet Isaiah said.

So non brethren, to become brethren get a comprehensive integrated plan and planner.... called Jesus. Then you won;t be pulling things out of you know where.
 
True Sexuality, and true love is based on true EQUALITY. Without equality there can not be real love.

And yet the males make foolish comments and the women are dumbfounded (if false skeptics) as they are afraid to take sides with EQUALITY.... and so side with the male macho's and mob mentality of those favouring the oppression of women.
 
ReligionStudent said:
This is the logos doctrine. A form of this is also seen in proverbs, only it is not jesus, but a female Sophia, or Wisdom. If you want to say somthing about the logos doctrine you should take this into account as well.
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Now you are catching on religion student as Sophia is wisdom as the Holy Spirit is the whispering teacher that teaches 24/7 to those that don;t deny HER.

SEE From my wife's website..

http://www.geocities.com/goddess_trixie2000/FeminineHolySpiritinProverbs.html

The [SIZE=-1]Holy Spirit is Female[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] as seen even in Proverbs [/SIZE][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Home[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] - [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Chistian[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] - [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Experiences[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]


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[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Proverbs
Chapter 1-Verse 20-33

20. Wisdom crieth without; [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]SHE[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] uttereth [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]HER[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] voice in the streets:
21. [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]SHE [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]SHE[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] uttereth her words, saying,
22. How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
23. Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
24. Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
25. But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
26. I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
27. When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
28. Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
29. For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
30. They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
31. Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
32. For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
33. But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.



Proverbs
Chapter 8
1. Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]HER[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] voice?
2. [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]SHE[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
3. [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]SHEe[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
4. Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
5. O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
6. Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.
7. For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
8. All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
9. They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
10. Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
11. For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
12. I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
13. The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
14. Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15. By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16. By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17. I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
18. Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
19. My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
20. I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:
21. That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
22. The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26. While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27. When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28. When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29. When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30. Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31. Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
32. Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
33. Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
34. Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
35. For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
36. But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.[/SIZE]
 
Paulhoff said:
DJJ so-called god has a sex, how primitive. :(

Paul

:) :) :)

And no respect for women, even more primitive. :mad:
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Twisted Paul, who gets almost everything wrong.

Respect for women means EQUALITY extended to women, because in truth they are EQUAL to men. EQUALITY is respect for women, which I teach and believe in, because I know from personal experience, the strengths of a real woman.

http://www.geocities.com/goddess_trixie2000/Experiences.html

And what strength she gained from her life, you can only dream of. And yet through it all she survived and has great love, despite her great hardships.

As for sex it is not primitive but divine, as you also surely wouldn;t have experienced this either Paul. How sad, but then again your fear to try and test things and prove things is why you haven;t experienced divine sex and divine love.

How sad...
 
Non più andrai, farfallone amoroso,
Notte e giorno d'intorno girando,
Delle belle turbando il riposo,
Narcisetto, Adoncino d'amor.

Delle belle turbando il riposo,
Narcisetto, Adoncino d'amor.

Non piu avrai questi bei penacchini,
Quel cappello leggiero e galante,
Quella chioma, quell'aria brillante,
Quel vermiglio donnesco color!
Quel vermiglio donnes color!

Non piu avrai quei penacchini,
Quel cappello
Quella chioma, quell'aria brillante

Non più andrai, farfallone amoroso,
Notte e giorno d'intorno girando,
Delle belle turbando il riposo,
Narcisetto, Adoncino d'amor.

Delle belle turbando il riposo,
Narcisetto, Adoncino d'amor.

Fra guerrieri, poffar Bacco!
Gran mustacchi, stretto sacco,
Schioppo in spalla, sciabla al fianco,
Collo dritto, jules is god,
Un gran casco, o un gran turbante,
Molto onor, poco contante.
Poco contante
Poco contante

Ed in vece del fandango
Una marcia per il fango.

Per montagne, per valloni,
Con le nevi, e i solioni,
Al concerto di tromboni,
Di bombarde, di cannoni,
Che le palle in tutti i tuoni,
All'orecchio fan fischiar.

Non piu avrai quei penacchini,
Non piu avrai quel cappello
Non piu avrai quella chioma
Non piu avrai quell'aria brillante.

Non più andrai, farfallone amoroso,
Notte e giorno d'intorno girando,
Delle belle turbando il riposo,
Narcisetto, Adoncino d'amor.

Delle belle turbando il riposo,
Narcisetto, Adoncino d'amor.

Cherubino, alla vittoria!
Alla gloria militar!
Cherubino, alla vittoria!
Alla gloria militar!
Alla gloria militar!

Alla gloria militar!​

Le Nozze di Figaro - Mozart
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Yes, you are new HERE and fresh from your religious studies where you have been indocrinated. But go slow and study rather than speak or write before you have learned.

Rookies need a little humility before they get understanding.

Yod He Vau he... is the archetype of the male female relationship.

Yod, Father Male, He Holy Spirit, Vau Male, the Son, the final He, Female meaning the Bride.

Learn student learn, as the Holy Spirit is female and no matter how they twisted your mind into degrading women and putting them into a oppressive role as an underlying, it is NOT the Lord's truth. The Lord is for EQUALITY, and He is hermaphroditic as he created both genders, not just males as the overlords over women and all others.
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Um, your characterization of me is unfair and quite wrong. I may be new to this forum, but that does not mean I am fresh from my studies. Your comment is argumentative, offensive and pointless.

Your Hebrew is also wrong. I pulled out my Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon (William L. Holladay) from next to by bed, and surprise surprise it does not support your clame.

Your derivation also differs from your wife's.

But Yod has no inherintly male characteristic or any recognition for father, that would be aleph bet, the second he has nothing to do with the holy spirit, as that isn't in Hebrew at all, and is a complete anachronism, the third waw again has no tie to male or son, A final he could mean female, but all you would prove is that Yhwh was a woman, not that he had male and female aspects. Additionaly this would only be if it here a qamats he, but in the actual name Yahweh, it isn't so even this is thrown out the window. The idea of the final he femanine is also contradicted by the use of masculine nouns in other places for Yhwh.

Listen I am not lecturing you here on something contraversial this is the blatant Hebrew language, if you are going to work with it at least learn it, and don't quote other authors (at least don't quote non-credible authors) or make stuff up about it, and go out and get something like a Brown, Driver, Briggs Hebrew Lexicon and a basic grammer.

Finally, Yhwh had a wife, plain fact in ancient Israel Yhwh had a female mate (read Dr. Bill Dever or Dr. George E. Mendenhall), clearly there was not an intended female aspect.


Final PS, what is Vau?? I assume you meant waw, but where did you get that?
 
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Davidjayjordan said:
Now you are catching on religion student as Sophia is wisdom as the Holy Spirit is the whispering teacher that teaches 24/7 to those that don;t deny HER.
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If you are going to equate Sophia with the Logos doctrine and creation, its equivcable to "the word" and Jesus not the holy spirit in any way. So your wife is saying Jesus was a woman?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
As for true skeptics we will listen to true science and the true Creator which created the Sun, Moon, earth and the heavens as a witness to His creative abilities.
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Davidjayjordan said:
For as the Creator he created both men and women, and to reproduce He gave us men WOMEN.

But a building, a temple, the Tabernacle, is not the ultimate Temple of the Lord, our women are.
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Davidjayjordan said:
Thiose bing the Lord's words not mine, but I do understand their meaning and application. For if you guys stubbornly refuse to paerticpate in research, then you are of no value whatsoever.

I have miles to go before I'm done... most of you guys haven't started....

Oh well.
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Davidjayjordan said:
Not so gentleman and not so honourable ones. Your head is suppose to enter the temple.

Love not so gentleman is the KEY.
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Davidjayjordan said:
the reason why most of you non brethren accuse me of pulling things from a hat, is because you are unprepared for anything and haven;t got a comprehensive doctrine. Your truths don;t mesh and so you are fragmented and disjointed. You would have to pull things out of your hat and other places to respond to your disjointed dementia.

So non brethren, to become brethren get a comprehensive integrated plan and planner.... called Jesus. Then you won;t be pulling things out of you know where.
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And with all of this in mind . . .

Davidjayjordan said:
Respect for women means EQUALITY extended to women, because in truth they are EQUAL to men. EQUALITY is respect for women, which I teach and believe in, because I know from personal experience, the strengths of a real woman.
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After all of that male-chauvinism, you are desperately trying to save face. What a bunch of misogynistic twaddle from a false prophet.
 
ReligionStudent said:
If you are going to equate Sophia with the Logos doctrine and creation, its equivcable to "the word" and Jesus not the holy spirit in any way. So your wife is saying Jesus was a woman?
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religious student, you are truly dense.

No Jesus was male, don't you know this. The Holy Spirit was and is female.

The Patriacrhy changed the Holy Spirit into male to help confirm that women are to be submissive to them, and obey them, and be controlled by them.
 
Hokulele said:
And with all of this in mind . . .


After all of that male-chauvinism, you are desperately trying to save face. What a bunch of misogynistic twaddle from a false prophet.
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Hokuleke, the female that is afraid to stand up for her own EQUALITY as a woman amongst men.

In doing this, you show why most women submit to men and their unChristian principles of domination and control. In this way, you become extremely churchy and church oriented. You are afraid to speak up for your own EQUALITY.

You cant agree with me, on this, and so you in fear, stand firm with your mob and in essense therefore satnd for INEQUALITY.

Fior there are only two options, two choices, EQUALITY or INEQUALITY.

And you haven't the courage to stand up for EQUALITY, how very sad. very very sad, as peer pressure has made you do this and you are trapped in a corner of your own making. How truly sad.

I prefer strong women that stand up for themselves.... and stand up for EQUALITY.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
religious student, you are truly dense.

No Jesus was male, don't you know this. The Holy Spirit was and is female.

The Patriacrhy changed the Holy Spirit into male to help confirm that women are to be submissive to them, and obey them, and be controlled by them.
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But you are useing Sophia as a representative of the holy spirit....
The theology of Logos doctrine in Jewish Sophia of proverbs is equivicable to the Christian Logos doctrine of Christ, not the holy spirit.
The holy spirit can not even be considered in discussion with Sophia, as its pre-holy spirit (not a fleshed out theology until Basil of Caesarea)
YHWH has nothing to do with the holy spirit, its Israelite use predates the holy spirit by more than a thousand years, and was likely used by other ANE faiths before the Israelites.

To say that the holy spirit is female, you cannot support it with the old testament, as it is not aplicable, or the new, as it does not present a female holy spirit, so the only support you seem to be able to offer is mangled misinterpretations and incorrect Hebrew

The Jesus Male thing was Sarcasm.
And apparently you have that Davinci Code, Patriarchal conspiracy BS. Oh they were sexist but they didn't alter sexes and hide wives and stuff, that's just conspiracy theory paranoia.
 
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Davidjayjordan said:
Hokuleke, the female that is afraid to stand up for her own EQUALITY as a woman amongst men.

In doing this, you show why most women submit to men and their unChristian principles of domination and control. In this way, you become extremely churchy and church oriented. You are afraid to speak up for your own EQUALITY.

You cant agree with me, on this, and so you in fear, stand firm with your mob and in essense therefore satnd for INEQUALITY.

Fior there are only two options, two choices, EQUALITY or INEQUALITY.

And you haven't the courage to stand up for EQUALITY, how very sad. very very sad, as peer pressure has made you do this and you are trapped in a corner of your own making. How truly sad.

I prefer strong women that stand up for themselves.... and stand up for EQUALITY.
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There is a clear difference between being for equality and agreeing with your idea that the church or bible support equality, or the idea that your statements have been anything but chauvanistic.

and of course you rely on more personal attacks
 
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Welcome, boys and girls, to this week's dissection of a DJJ post! We've got a real winner this week, so grab some popcorn and let's get to work!

Davidjayjordan said:
Learn student learn, as the Holy Spirit is female
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1) Unsupported biblical claim that the holy spirit is female. Check.

and no matter how they twisted your mind into degrading women and putting them into a oppressive role as an underlying, it is NOT the Lord's truth. The Lord is for EQUALITY,
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2) Unsupported biblical claim that the Lord is in favor of gender equality. Got it.

and He is hermaphroditic as he created both genders,
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3) Unsupported biblical claim that creating both genders results somehow in the creator being hermaphroditic. Roger.

not just males as the overlords over women and all others.
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4) Unsupported biblical claim that males are the overlords over "women and all others". Righto.

This week's tally:

Four (4) unsupported biblical claims;
One (1) contradiction between clauses 2 and 4, which claim that the Lord is both in favor of and against gender equality;
One (1) DJJ post.

Thanks for watching, and see you next time!
 
Cosmo said:
Welcome, boys and girls, to this week's dissection of a DJJ post! We've got a real winner this week, so grab some popcorn and let's get to work!
This week's tally:

Four (4) unsupported biblical claims;
One (1) contradiction between clauses 2 and 4, which claim that the Lord is both in favor of and against gender equality;
One (1) DJJ post.

Thanks for watching, and see you next time!
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LOL.

I might change it to unsupportable (slight difference but important)

I just thought I would pause for a moment and point out a story from my girlfriend's gross anatomy professor. Apparently the most frequent question he gets from first year med students is if men have one fewer rib than women. (These people somehow did well on the mcats and interviews etc)
 
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Davidjayjordan said:
Fior there are only two options, two choices, EQUALITY or INEQUALITY.
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False dichotomy.

Besides, your posts clearly show your inequality, with a multitude of false prophecies, male-chauvinism, and inability to learn anything. Why do you so clearly believe women are inferior? Why is always "you guys" and "brethren" with you?

Define barycenter, give the approximate value for the earth-moon system. I can, you haven't yet.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Not so gentleman and not so honourable ones. Your head is suppose to enter the temple.

You are suppose to sexually enter the greatest temple of the Lord, as UNION is the highest compliment and most divine act possible.

Love not so gentleman is the KEY.
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So, women are sexual playthings for men and women should be subjected to rough sex. Got it.
 
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