Canada Seal Slaughter begins

Your silly and constant insults really are rather tiring. You've actually made no attempt at rational discourse. You can cry for the cows, I will not.
I hope someone who cares for you gets you into a program. In my opinion you have a lot to offer and I hope this will be taken into account. I'd love to meet you at TAM 10, for example.

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Do you empathize with the grass when you step on it? Do you shed tears for a mosquito that you smash? I'm wondering why you think humans should feel empathy for all living things, especially since most non-humans don't empathize with us.
 
Do you empathize with the grass when you step on it?
Not always, but sometimes I do, when I'm made aware of what I'm doing.
Do you shed tears for a mosquito that you smash?
None at all.
I'm wondering why you think humans should feel empathy for all living things, especially since most non-humans don't empathize with us.
Your question is difficult to answer. I cannot shut off my empathy for others. I constantly have empathy for beings around me. Constantly.
 
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Or they're simply defending the actions of a few fishermen because they also live in Canada and are bias towards it (Sort of like the people in Israel were staunchly defending anything Israel did during last years conflict).

Or, because we live in Canada, we are a lot closer to the "problem" than you are and have more understanding of it than those who live elsewhere.

If there is a "problem" with the seal hunt, it is that the killing is done in the open, not protected from sensitive eyes by buildings called abattoirs. :mad:
 
If we suddenly withdraw ourselves from the mix and do nothing to influence the "natural" order -- don't you think that would throw the environment seriously out of whack?

No.

That's what would happen if humans suddenly stopped preying on an animal they've been preying on for thousands of years. It has evolved to deal with that environmental pressure; without it, overpopulation would be inevitable.

There's no evidence for that. No evidence at all. Not only are the animals that humans consume limited almost entirely to domesticated animals whom we BREED, but our total destruction of fish populations in the oceans means that we're putting pressure on the ecosystems that will soon destroy them if we don't stop. We're netting the entire oceans and studies estimate that we've killed 90% of the oceans "big fish" and only about 10% remain.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/05/14/coolsc.disappearingfish/

Anyone who implies humans are "needed" to keep the ecosystems in check is a complete idiot.
 
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Or, because we live in Canada, we are a lot closer to the "problem" than you are and have more understanding of it than those who live elsewhere.

No. I know all of the facts concerning this problem. It doesn't matter where you live.

If there is a "problem" with the seal hunt, it is that the killing is done in the open, not protected from sensitive eyes by buildings called abattoirs. :mad:

I don't see how that's a problem. The problem is the commercial killings themselves.
 
No. I know all of the facts concerning this problem. It doesn't matter where you live.

In your OP you said, "Each spring hundreds of blood thirsty locals descend onto the ice to slaughter helpless seals by shooting them or beating them to death with clubs."

They are not "blood thirsty". They may not think the same way you do, but they are not risking their lives on the ice simply to kill and get covered with blood.

I don't see how that's a problem. The problem is the commercial killings themselves.

No, the problem is you see the cute little "babies". If they were not visible, the EU would pay as little attention to them as they do to the raising of veal or the production of pâté de foie gras or what goes what goes on in an abattoir.
 
I linked it twice.





Absolutely.





You've realized how wrong you are to endorse the wholesale inhumane slaughter of millions of innocent seals and now you're backing out with that excuse to safe face.




Is this supposed to be evidence that cute little white furry seal pups are being harvested? You have several pictures of harvested adult seals with one live and well and most definitely unharvested pup in the middle. This is pretty darn dishonest.

An whats with this "millions of innocent seals" business? The harvest is 270,000 out of a population of 5,800,000.
 
In your OP you said, "Each spring hundreds of blood thirsty locals descend onto the ice to slaughter helpless seals by shooting them or beating them to death with clubs."

They are not "blood thirsty". They may not think the same way you do, but they are not risking their lives on the ice simply to kill and get covered with blood.

Beating seals to death and butchering them where they lay is what I'd call "blood thirsty". Deal with it.


No, the problem is you see the cute little "babies". If they were not visible, the EU would pay as little attention to them as they do to the raising of veal or the production of pâté de foie gras or what goes what goes on in an abattoir.

I don't know why the EU doesn't pay more attention to regulating slaughterhouses or banning foie gras but the fact that they are paying attention to this is a good thing no matter how you cut it.
 
Is this supposed to be evidence that cute little white furry seal pups are being harvested? You have several pictures of harvested adult seals with one live and well and most definitely unharvested pup in the middle. This is pretty darn dishonest.

The links are to show the brutality of the 'hunt' and to show that the whitefur's are often harvested as well even if it's illegal.

An whats with this "millions of innocent seals" business? The harvest is 270,000 out of a population of 5,800,000.

That's just in Canada. And that's just this year.
 
More like misrepresenting the facts...

He's just another Canadian trying to justify an immoral and brutal practice because he's too bias to see it for what it is.
Dustin, some deer seasons the Texas Game and Wildlife authorities authorize a supplemental doe season after regular deer season, and some seasons they don't. The wardens and rangers measure the herd size across the state and in various specific areas, and then make a determination based on the balance between deer herd size and the folizage/graze available to sustain them.

Since so few natural predators remain in Texas for deer, man is now deer's main predator.

That policy is good stewardship, in that it keeps the white tail and mule deer in Texas viable and healthy.

And available to hunt. :) And to eat. Yummy. :)

I do not take your narrow view that the Canadian game officials are other than level headed regarding stewardship of the seal herd.

You are arguing from a particular bias, and have now accused our new friend dlacone of doing so, when he at least has facts, and less emotion behind his position.

Not well played.

DR
 
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The links are to show the brutality of the 'hunt' and to show that the whitefur's are often harvested as well even if it's illegal.


OK. Show me a (recent) pic of a pup being harvested and I'll be suitably shocked. Don't show me a cute picture randomly inserted into a series of perfectly legal adult harvestings.
 
More like misrepresenting the facts...

He's just another Canadian trying to justify an immoral and brutal practice because he's too bias to see it for what it is.


Brutal yes. Immoral no.

Can't speak for other countries, but it is perfectly justifiable in Canada. The Harp seal population is healthy and growing. It's called resource management. And yes, other creatures are both resources and living beings...get over it.
 
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Beating seals to death and butchering them where they lay is what I'd call "blood thirsty". Deal with it.

OK. I don't believe they should kill "laying" seals. We need the eggs.

I don't know why the EU doesn't pay more attention to regulating slaughterhouses or banning foie gras but the fact that they are paying attention to this is a good thing no matter how you cut it.

And that's what I call hypocrisy.
 
Dustin, some deer seasons the Texas Game and Wildlife authorities authorize a supplemental doe season after regular deer season, and some seasons they don't. The wardens and rangers measure the herd size across the state and in various specific areas, and then make a determination based on the balance between deer herd size and the folizage/graze available to sustain them.

Since so few natural predators remain in Texas for deer, man is now deer's main predator.

That policy is good stewardship, in that it keeps the white tail and mule deer in Texas viable and healthy.

And available to hunt. :) And to eat. Yummy. :)

I do not take your narrow view that the Canadian game officials are other than level headed regarding stewardship of the seal herd.

You are arguing from a particular bias, and have now accused our new friend dlacone of doing so, when he at least has facts, and less emotion behind his position.

Not well played.

DR


See the previous links posted. Even the people who support this "hunt" admit that it has nothing to do with keeping the populations of the seals down.
 
Brutal yes. Immoral no.

Explain how beating a seal to death isn't immoral. I've already explained how it is.

Can't speak for other countries, but it is perfectly justifiable in Canada. The Harp seal population is healthy and growing. It's called resource management. And yes, other creatures are both resources and living beings...get over it.

So the fact that the population is large is an excuse to do it? I could use the same argument in defense of murder for humans since there are after all 6 billion of us..:rolleyes:
 

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